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    • K Offline
      Klog
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      @MrWip --
      @unknownuser said:

      By the way, some remarks: the covering of the pillars looks a big large to me, and not so realistic in term of proportions, and their texture is lacking of precision... but this are small problems regarding to the amount of work you put in this cathedral !
      First, these are great "prelimenary" renders. Can't wait to see the results of your tweaking/changing the shaders in the future. Show me your stuff! Yes I too thought the pillars were too large and so they are now 75% of the original and could be smaller yet. And I ran up against the limits of 2GB pagefile for Kerkythea, even with some of the tricks I learned; so I reduced the resolution of all the shaders and chopped avout 15MB out of the source file. Even then I could only render the inside by stripping off the north and south porches, gutting the Royal entry towers, and stripping nearly all the flying buttresses as well as the terraine and exterior shaders. That got it to ~50MB and then Kerkythea could handle the interior with my machine. So I think higher resolution is for someone else to do for this project. Have at it. Thanks for your excitement about this.

      @Artysmedia -- Thanks for your enthusiasm on this too; show us some re-renders from you, too.
      Klog

      Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

      Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
      Skp 7 Pro & 8

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        Fletch
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        Thanks for sharing the model, Klog,
        A couple quick renders with Twilight Render.
        The old cathedrals always felt to me to have high contrast dark and light areas something like this.


        gothic-cathedral-01-web.jpg


        gothic-cathedral-02-mood.jpg

        Fletch
        Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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          Klog
          last edited by

          Very nice Fletch. I would have fone more of this myself, but I have trouble knowing i9f my (digitasl) computer screen is "telling me the truth" because if I move out of NORMAL to the screen it changes the contrasts. Some earlier ones came out too dark ...
          Is it the thin glass that gets so much more light into the building or is it the Gamma?
          Thanks and do a lot more

          Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

          Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
          Skp 7 Pro & 8

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            Fletch
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            @unknownuser said:

            Is it the thin glass that gets so much more light into the building or is it the Gamma?

            I almost always adjust Exposure/Gamma on interior images. (or exteriors for that matter) It's as natural as a normal camera adjusting exposure when inside a building.

            In this case, I did some post-pro only to get the lights and darks looking how I wanted them. I have no idea how successful it is (with the image of the choir looking up) on your screen, or anyone's screen for that matter. I'm sure it looks completely different on every screen. 😕 I only know it looks "good" to me on mine.

            If you are interested, here's something about how to calibrate your monitor or screen. See also the basics of screen calibration here.

            Fletch
            Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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              Fletch
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              A couple more.


              gothic-cathedral-03-GodRays-web.jpg


              gothic-cathedral-04-LightFromAbove.jpg

              Fletch
              Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                  artysmedia
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                  @fletch said:

                  A couple more.

                  I like a lot the first one! 😲

                  Working with: Win7 64 bit OS - Core i5 - 2,27GHz and 8GB RAM

                  Blog: Artysmedia

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                    unigami
                    last edited by

                    @fletch said:

                    A couple more.

                    Just beautiful...and so real I can almost hear echoes!

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                    • K Offline
                      Klog
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                      I have just created my first video of the Interior of this cathedral and it very clearly shows that is is the first. Created from Kerkythea in 600x800 format (thanks ) and is posted at Yutube site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8COiJmGZCk . I have a lot to learn about movie making so any comments for improvement to that end are very welcome. View the Youtube video in FULL screen format or you miss half of it ...

                      Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

                      Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
                      Skp 7 Pro & 8

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                        Roger
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                        The camera can't show the full range of color that our eyes see in a stained glass window. When I shoot stained glass windows I shoot a 3 to five stop bracket and layer the images in PhotoShop. Then going pane by pane, I use only the exposure that gives the most representative detail. I the case of this cathedral it would probably take as much time as building the original. So don't feel bad about having to go to extra lengths to handle the dynamics of th exposure range.

                        http://www.azcreative.com

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                          massimo Moderator
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                          Thanks klog. However the new file says "7" in the name but is still saved in "8" version. 😉

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                            nomeradona
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                            we are using this model in our Facebook challenge. Thanks again Klog for this excellent model.

                            visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                              tomislavm
                              last edited by

                              My God,how long did You need to render this movie?
                              Is there any suggestion for that render?

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                                Klog
                                last edited by

                                Recently I realized that not everyone uses version 8 Sketchup and could not use the available downloading option. I have corrected the omission and here is the link to download a version 7 .skp file of the complete cathedral. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40864073/v7%20Gothic%20Cathedral%20clean.skp Also Nomeradona informs me he is using this model for the October Challenge of his Sketchup-Vray Facebook group and we shall post the "winners and runners-up" here as well.

                                EDIT:10/20/11
                                the above link IS NOW version 7.skp

                                Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

                                Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
                                Skp 7 Pro & 8

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                                  Klog
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                                  Massimo
                                  Thanks for the heads-up. The URL has been corrected as has the version (I checked this time in the "Model info" dialog). Good rendering to you ...

                                  Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

                                  Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
                                  Skp 7 Pro & 8

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                                  • massimoM Offline
                                    massimo Moderator
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                                    Nice model. Thanks for sharing. 👍

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                                      Klog
                                      last edited by

                                      @tomislavm said:

                                      My God,how long did You need to render this movie?
                                      Is there any suggestion for that render?

                                      First answer: set it up and go on vacation while it renders. Actually took about 2-1/2 days because it hung about 2/3 of the way through and I had to start and splice from there to finish.
                                      Second answer: I deffinitely suggest not using approximation of "tween" frames, which is one of the options of Kerky animation - while it probably saves time, you get that blinking of transmitted light on and off seen in the video. I used PM medium AA for the renderings which seems good enough for the video mode. Used Virtual Dub (free) for the assembly and recommend you study the "frame ripping" info to avoid the horizontal tearing of image frames I sometimes got. It is a conflict between the different scan rates (I think) of the movie and crt/computer/other devices).There are also plug-ins you can activate as filters on the raw images and advise figuring out how to activate them as one of them allows contrast/brightness adjustment and many others I know nothing about.
                                      I know this sure as hell beats Sketchup's native animation feature for smoothness and AA function. And lastly the use of key-frames is useful for editing out stuff. I didn't use it and got the frame jumps twice when I removed unwanted frames and spliced.
                                      Like I said before, this is my first real attempt at movie making and may we all learn from it.
                                      Thanks for the input.

                                      Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

                                      Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
                                      Skp 7 Pro & 8

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                                        nomeradona
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                                        TOP 12 for our Sketchup Vray artists October Challenge using this GOthic Cathedral

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                                        SVA October Challenge Top 12

                                        Last October SketchUp Vray Artists Facebook Group had organized a challenge using Al Klagge's Gothic Cathedral. Here are the top 12 selected...

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                                        visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                          Klog
                                          last edited by

                                          @nomeradona said:

                                          TOP 12 for our Sketchup Vray artists October Challenge using this GOthic Cathedral

                                          http://sketchupvrayresources.blogspot.com/2011/11/sva-october-challenge-top-12. html

                                          Nomer these are just fantastic and I would like to ask permission to upload all 50 to the Picassa web site I used for my renderings in a folder "Renderings by Others" and give credit to each (and the link as well). Is this OK?
                                          Good work everyone.

                                          Klog http://www.tetontimberframe.com

                                          Win 7 Pro Dell Precision M4500 4Gig 4 threads @ 2.9 GB/S
                                          Skp 7 Pro & 8

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                                            nomeradona
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            @nomeradona said:

                                            TOP 12 for our Sketchup Vray artists October Challenge using this GOthic Cathedral

                                            http://sketchupvrayresources.blogspot.com/2011/11/sva-october-challenge-top-12. html

                                            Nomer these are just fantastic and I would like to ask permission to upload all 50 to the Picassa web site I used for my renderings in a folder "Renderings by Others" and give credit to each (and the link as well). Is this OK?
                                            Good work everyone.
                                            sure do it. we owe also these thing from you.

                                            visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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