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  • A Offline
    araz
    last edited by 7 Jul 2011, 14:47

    @tobobo said:

    Do you have to mist uptodate Compent Spray plugin?, as i believe there is a clash with bender and the previous plugin.

    i removed the component spray and it worked
    thanks alot for the advice-problem solved

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    • T Offline
      Tobobo
      last edited by 7 Jul 2011, 18:27

      Do you have the most up to date Compent Spray plugin? as i believe there is a clash with bender and the previous version of the plugin.

      Toby

      Philippians 4:13

      I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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      • T Offline
        Tobobo
        last edited by 7 Jul 2011, 18:28

        the new version of component spray works with the bender plugin
        @araz said:

        i removed the component spray and it worked
        thanks alot for the advice-problem solved

        Apologise for the poor typing, i've corrected the post 😳

        Toby

        Philippians 4:13

        I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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          onezero
          last edited by 24 Jul 2011, 23:40

          @tig said:

          You have unzipped the files into folder named after the zip and moved that folder into Plugins.
          The only shape bender related stuff you should have in Plugins is the loader rb file and the subfolder, like this [attachment=0:2fm4zizk]<!-- ia0 -->Capture1.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2fm4zizk] and that subfolder should contain these files [attachment=1:2fm4zizk]<!-- ia1 -->Capture.PNG<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:2fm4zizk] I.E. you move the file and subfolder that were in the zip into Plugins AND NOT the unzipped folder [clf_shape_bender_v005] itself...

          Howdy everyone,
          I'm sort of a newbie to SU. Well, I'm a newbie when it comes to using a MAC and SU. I've played with SU for years on a PC and recently I've made the move to Macintosh ( macbook pro) and the above help from TIG has by far been the most valuable advice and visual guide for getting this plugin to work.
          I was repeatedly moving the whole zip file folder to the plugins and was absolutely confounded as to why it did not work. I installed and reinstalled again and again with the same result. I never had this frustrating difficulty on a PC.
          Anyway, THANK YOU TIG and everyone else!! I am now on my way to enjoying (hopefully) the SU experience on my Apple.

          I wish there was an energetic young person with a lot of time on their hands that could put all the MAC problems into a thread or topic so it would be easier to pinpoint some problems but I know that would be a huge task - just some wishful thinking on my part.

          Keep up the good work everyone! This is a great website with an absolutely encouraging and positive atmosphere--renews my hope for mankind, in a way. 😄

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            saj33
            last edited by 28 Jul 2011, 04:23

            Can somebody help? I've been trying to let my staircase follow a curved path. I selected the component, used the plugin then, when it comes to selecting a line on the red axis, my mouse can't select it. Nothing happens. Note, it does select when I'm not using the plugin. What do you think's the problem?

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            • T Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 28 Jul 2011, 10:40

              This line you must pick that is parallel to the red axis must be completely 'unattached' - i.e. it cannot join onto another line, or edge a face etc.
              It also has to be a piece of separate geometry in the active-entities context [i.e. with the group/component that you want to bend].
              The same points apply to the 'curve' you will need to pick next...

              TIG

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                breeze
                last edited by 20 Aug 2011, 20:42

                thank you very much

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                • D Offline
                  disturbed13
                  last edited by 27 Aug 2011, 03:05

                  i have an issue
                  this plug-in doesnt work right

                  http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/hedoe/myissue.jpg

                  am i doing something wrong here or what?

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                  • D Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by 27 Aug 2011, 09:19

                    Could you post the SKP so we can take a look?

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

                    %

                    (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                    G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                    M30

                    %

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                      disturbed13
                      last edited by 28 Aug 2011, 01:42

                      @dave r said:

                      Could you post the SKP so we can take a look?

                      sure some background first so you understand what i am trying to accomplish
                      im in the process of designing a tree climbing spider robot
                      and im working on one of the legs, ive decided to have a 'thumb-like' appendage to grasp onto branches in the canopy
                      now my mind is turning and it would be a good idea to add a saw-tooth like pattern to the inside of each
                      for better grasping ability
                      however i cant get the blasted mini pyramids to follow the curve of the main leg
                      i havent tried the grasping limb yet


                      the leg

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                      • T Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 28 Aug 2011, 08:54

                        The 'line' you are asked to pick initially needs to be parallel to the Red axis and it cannot touch anything else.
                        Your supplied SKP only has two lines parallel to the Red axis; BUT both of these touch a line drawn on the Green axis, so they won't work!
                        Erase the connected line and then the Lines parallel to the Red axis will be available and the tool should work.
                        Note that the length of the 'line' and the 'arc', and the location of them relative to the object that's to be bent will affect the 'bending' - experiment with some different settings... 🤓

                        TIG

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                        • Jean-FrancoJ Offline
                          Jean-Franco
                          last edited by 28 Aug 2011, 09:16

                          Hi,
                          for me it works as it is in your SU file.
                          But after you select the curved line and as shown in your picture, you have to play a bit with the Up and down arrows of your keyboard.
                          Try.

                          Shapebender example.png

                          Shapebender example_1.png

                          Jean-Franco

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                            gr8fzy1
                            last edited by 29 Aug 2011, 19:44

                            @tig said:

                            The 'line' you are asked to pick initially needs to be parallel to the Red axis and it cannot touch anything else.
                            Your supplied SKP only has two lines parallel to the Red axis; BUT both of these touch a line drawn on the Green axis, so they won't work!
                            Erase the connected line and then the Lines parallel to the Red axis will be available and the tool should work.
                            Note that the length of the 'line' and the 'arc', and the location of them relative to the object that's to be bent will affect the 'bending' - experiment with some different settings... 🤓

                            Can you explain this a little bit more clearly, because I'm having the same problem as saj33.

                            I have the component all set, so I draw a line on the red axis. I then select the component and it asks me to select the line. But no matter how many times I click on it, it won't let me select the line.
                            This is a screen shot of the arch I want to bend, the curve I want it to follow, and a dummy line drawn between them to represent the line drawn on the component. None of the lines/components are touching the red or green axis. And you can clearly see the line drawn on the component that I want to use.
                            But then when I select the component and activate Shape bender, it WILL NOT let me select the drawn line. And I am doing everything as shown in the maker's own video. (The youtube one, 3rd video in his first post)

                            This is the test file I made to test the plug in.

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                            • T Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 29 Aug 2011, 22:31

                              The 'line' you are asked to pick initially needs to be parallel to the Red axis and it should not touch anything else. BUT YOU HAVE IT TOUCHING THE VERY OBJECT THAT YOU WANT TO BEND! It might 'work'... but it will/might give unpredictable results, with no preview before bending!
                              Your supplied SKP has two lines parallel to the Red axis; ONE of these touches nothing, so it will work! USE THAT.
                              The length of the 'line' and the 'arc', and the location of them relative to the object that's to be bent will affect the 'bending' - experiment with some different settings...
                              IT WORKS FOR ME.Capture.PNG

                              TIG

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                              • gullfoG Offline
                                gullfo
                                last edited by 29 Aug 2011, 22:49

                                i've found that the line on the red axis can touch the group or component as it's a separate object. but i've found that the start of the lines need to be both on the same side otherwise the results are not good... having the object away from the red axis line seems to create an offset in the final result which means the final dimensions can be off.

                                Glenn

                                http://www.runnel.com

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                                • T Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 29 Aug 2011, 23:30

                                  Capture.PNGThis is the result from picking the line that touches the object that's to be bent. It can touch the object because it's a group or instance and therefore there's no 'raw' geometry involved... and it might give what you want... BUT you will get no 'preview' of the new curved-form to see if you are happy with the result before committing to it.
                                  Picking a line spaced away from the object gives more predictable results with a preview to allow you to toggle start/end etc...
                                  Note: the examples show how the offset between the object and the line, is replicated in the offset between the bent-clone and the curve... If there is an offset 'gap' [even small] you'll get better control...
                                  Tip: it's always best to have the three parts [object, line and curve] within the same ;quadrant of the Red-Green/X-Y axes - i.e. all three located on the same side of the Red and Green axes.

                                  TIG

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                                  • T Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by 29 Aug 2011, 23:46

                                    gr8fzy1
                                    Incidentally, please 'purge' SKPs before attaching them.
                                    Model Info > Statistics > Purge Unused... OR my Purge-Tool
                                    The original in 2.55Mb but purged it's only 28kb !
                                    You must have had some complex components and materials unused?
                                    Here's what was not needed in the posted SKP:

                                    C:/Users/TIG/Desktop/Shape Bender test-PurgeLog.txt

                                    Purged Unused...

                                    Components: 8
                                    Component#3
                                    Component#2
                                    light-point-2
                                    ivyleaf_3
                                    ivyleaf_2
                                    ivyleaf_1
                                    Component#1
                                    Susan

                                    Layers: 0

                                    Materials: 12
                                    black
                                    <Beige>1
                                    Color_B24
                                    <LightGray>
                                    0135_DarkGray
                                    96,96,96
                                    jean blue
                                    <Charcoal>
                                    efeu1
                                    Color_F12#1
                                    Ivy2d#1
                                    Ivy_stem

                                    Styles: 0

                                    #EOF

                                    TIG

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                                    • G Offline
                                      gr8fzy1
                                      last edited by 30 Aug 2011, 14:26

                                      @tig said:

                                      The 'line' you are asked to pick initially needs to be parallel to the Red axis and it should not touch anything else. BUT YOU HAVE IT TOUCHING THE VERY OBJECT THAT YOU WANT TO BEND! It might 'work'... but it will/might give unpredictable results, with no preview before bending!
                                      Your supplied SKP has two lines parallel to the Red axis; ONE of these touches nothing, so it will work! USE THAT.
                                      The length of the 'line' and the 'arc', and the location of them relative to the object that's to be bent will affect the 'bending' - experiment with some different settings...
                                      IT WORKS FOR ME.[attachment=1:gywgvp4p]<!-- ia1 -->Capture.PNG<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:gywgvp4p]

                                      See, THAT'S what I don't get. In I did it just like he did in the video. I drew the line right from one end of the component to the other: Just like he did on his demonstration ramp. But here you are telling me to use the dummy line I created?

                                      I've tried doing it like you suggested. I select the component, click the shape bender Icon, and it asks me to "Please select a single line that lies on the Red Axis". But then it won't let me click on the separate line. And then when I try to select them like he did in the video (Select the line, Select the component, click Shape bender) I get this error message:

                                      [attachment=0:gywgvp4p]<!-- ia0 -->Shape Bender 3.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:gywgvp4p]

                                      Perhaps it is clashing with another plug in...should I provide a screen shot with my plugins list?

                                      @tig said:

                                      gr8fzy1
                                      Incidentally, please 'purge' SKPs before attaching them.
                                      Model Info > Statistics > Purge Unused... OR my Purge-Tool
                                      The original in 2.55Mb but purged it's only 28kb !
                                      You must have had some complex components and materials unused?
                                      Here's what was not needed in the posted SKP:

                                      C:/Users/TIG/Desktop/Shape Bender test-PurgeLog.txt

                                      Purged Unused...

                                      Components: 8
                                      Component#3
                                      Component#2
                                      light-point-2
                                      ivyleaf_3
                                      ivyleaf_2
                                      ivyleaf_1
                                      Component#1
                                      Susan

                                      Layers: 0

                                      Materials: 12
                                      black
                                      <Beige>1
                                      Color_B24
                                      <LightGray>
                                      0135_DarkGray
                                      96,96,96
                                      jean blue
                                      <Charcoal>
                                      efeu1
                                      Color_F12#1
                                      Ivy2d#1
                                      Ivy_stem

                                      Styles: 0

                                      #EOF

                                      And as for purging my SKP, I have no idea where those textures and such came from! I didn't import any components or even USE the bucket tool. Just rectangle, pencil, arch and push/pull! SKP is now purged.

                                      How do you get that purge log?


                                      Error Message.

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                                      • T Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 30 Aug 2011, 16:52

                                        You select the group/component.
                                        Run the tool.
                                        Select the Line.
                                        Select the Curve.
                                        Adjust the start/end if desired
                                        Enter to get the bent clone.
                                        ...
                                        If the Line touches any other geometry it will fail.
                                        If the Line touches the group/component you probably won't get a preview of the bent form.
                                        The Clone will be offset from the Curve by the same amount as the original is offset from the Line.
                                        ...
                                        The error message you show suggests you have the group/component select AND a Line [or two] when you start the tool BUT you must have only the one thing - a group or a component-instance... THEN run the tool, then pick the Line... then pick the Curve...
                                        ...
                                        Have you moved all of the parts to one axes' quadrant to be doubly sure ?
                                        Run it with the Ruby Console open and report any error messages you get.
                                        ...
                                        What other scripts do you have loading?
                                        ...
                                        The Purge log is an option from my Purge script - see the Plugins Index...
                                        ...

                                        TIG

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by 30 Aug 2011, 19:15

                                          Also, is there any chance you changed the model's axis, or the axis of the template so that it always loads skewed?

                                          Try tight clicking on the axis and if there is an option to "Reset" then click, it and that will set your axis back to the world axis, and shape bender only works on the world axis.

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                          All my Plugins I've written

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