[Plugin] Hidden Manager (08.Feb.2015)

Pherim · 26 Oct 2010, 13:11

I also think it's a good idea, as you can see all your hidden objects at once. The only thing I miss is that hidden objects within groups or components are displayed but I don't know whether this can be done. Maybe similar to the Outliner as a tree structure?

CAntonis · 26 Oct 2010, 13:27

Its a very interesting plugin! And as it is your first I feel like congatulating you for doing work that help the rest of us , have a better workflow.
I could really make use of it, but I am not going to download yet. You should really listen to Thom, if you don't mind me say, cause he is very experienced.
This plugin can be "a must have" for everyone.

Keep up the good work, and the feedback will come.

CAntonis

caleidos4d · 26 Oct 2010, 14:39

@thomthom said:

Are you sure you extracted all the files correctly?
(btw, for those who report it's not working, what SU version do you use? And what OS?)

yes... as Ken' post.
i have windows 7 and sketchup 8 pro

schorradt · 27 Oct 2010, 08:05

Thx for the feedback...
Is there a function to the undo function to prevent
for the undo stack? Or a code snipped?

The error is to be here, I can not find...

thomthom · 27 Oct 2010, 08:24

@schorradt said:

Is there a function to the undo function to prevent
for the undo stack? Or a code snipped?

There is a way to make the previous or next transparent, but I've had bad experience with them, tricky to get right. Merging undo stack items can be unpredictable to deal with. And both would cause the wrong name to appear in the Edit>Undo menu. I'd not recommend them.

caleidos4d · 27 Oct 2010, 09:05

@schorradt said:

The error is to be here, I can not find...

....

schorradt · 28 Oct 2010, 14:50

okay ... i looking for another solution...

@Caleidos4D
Sorry ,but in my testenvirement, i can´t see any errors . i do not understand it. maybe another plugin for a conflict?!

kmead · 29 Oct 2010, 01:11

@rv1974 said:

Well sorry if I upset you but this manager is rather useless IMHO. Why?
Because your model is itself a manager of your 3d elements. And if you'd turn on "show the hidden geometry" mode you can easily select\unhide\view it's properties without any additional tables.

Honestly this was an unnecessarily rude response. It may be useless to you, but may be of great use to others whose work process is different from yours.

I tend to hide some geometry to work on other items, being able to toggle a specific item into visibility without having to make all of them visible and the attendant slowdown of the program because of the huge overhead increase of all the sub geometry that also turns on when I show hidden geometry is a real boon.

So, thanks for an interesting and I think, quite useful plugin. Great first effort, would that I were able to be able to reciprocate with a plugin of my own. In any case thank you.

All the best and looking forward to your future efforts.

Karl

poohnut · 19 Nov 2010, 07:25

Thanksssss

schorradt · 17 Jan 2011, 13:46

little change in this Plugin.

CAntonis · 30 Jan 2011, 21:36

17 Of january is my nameday! And this is a wonderful present!Downloaded and gonna test it!
Thank U very much!

schorradt · 16 Feb 2011, 13:43

Update: 16.Feb.2011

Change to start the observer on activate and remove on deaktivate now. i hope the bugsplash from other Plugins (ImageTrimmer or Slicer etc...) is removed...

bdbox · 24 Feb 2011, 03:06

Error Loading File mx_hidemanager_loader.rb
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/mx_hidemanager_loader.rb:58: syntax error
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")
^
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/mx_hidemanager_loader.rb:58: syntax error
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")
^
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/mx_hidemanager_loader.rb:58: syntax error

schorradt · 25 Feb 2011, 09:07

I'm sorry, but it works on my computer. I can find no error.
Perhaps the pathfunctions does not feature in Sketchup 7 !?

thomthom · 25 Feb 2011, 09:34

Henry:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")

This can confuse Ruby - you have space after the method name and the brackets. ( File.join ) On top of that you have that as one of the argument of another method call ( SketchupExtension.new ) where you don't use brackets.

To avoid potential errors, always use brackets. But most important of all, never leave a space between the method name and the brackets.

It's a bit odd that a SU7 user should report this error, because SU8's ruby is more strict. Regardless, this should work:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new( "Hidden Manager", File.join("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs") )

bdbox · 26 Feb 2011, 14:38

@thomthom said:

Henry:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")

This can confuse Ruby - you have space after the method name and the brackets. ( File.join ) On top of that you have that as one of the argument of another method call ( SketchupExtension.new ) where you don't use brackets.

To avoid potential errors, always use brackets. But most important of all, never leave a space between the method name and the brackets.

It's a bit odd that a SU7 user should report this error, because SU8's ruby is more strict. Regardless, this should work:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new( "Hidden Manager", File.join("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs") )

i got this error:

No such file to load -- mx_hidemanager/mx_hidemanager.rbsError Loading File mx_hidemanager_loader.rb
No such file to load -- mx_hidemanager/mx_hidemanager.rbs

mac1 · 26 Feb 2011, 18:46

schorradt
What capability does this provide vs what the outliner has now??

nomeradona · 27 Feb 2011, 01:37

nifty tool as your hidden elements are in one place. I can see the relevance.

Evan Garmaise · 1 Mar 2011, 04:50

@bdbox said:

@thomthom said:

Henry:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new "Hidden Manager", File.join ("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs")

This can confuse Ruby - you have space after the method name and the brackets. ( File.join ) On top of that you have that as one of the argument of another method call ( SketchupExtension.new ) where you don't use brackets.

To avoid potential errors, always use brackets. But most important of all, never leave a space between the method name and the brackets.

It's a bit odd that a SU7 user should report this error, because SU8's ruby is more strict. Regardless, this should work:
mx_hiddenmanager = SketchupExtension.new( "Hidden Manager", File.join("mx_hidemanager","mx_hidemanager.rbs") )

i got this error:

No such file to load -- mx_hidemanager/mx_hidemanager.rbsError Loading File mx_hidemanager_loader.rb
No such file to load -- mx_hidemanager/mx_hidemanager.rbs

Some of my users of the PieceTracer tool have reported the same mysterious "No such file to load" error, as you can see here:
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=34492

A couple of similarities between Hidden Manager and PieceTracer:

Both have an underscore in both the directory name and the file name, as most plugins do not.
Both load the scrambled ruby file directly out of the loader file instead of using a second unscrambled file inside the sub-directory that loads the scrambled file using a 'require' statement or similar, as many plugins do.

Could these similarities point to a solution to the problem? Could be worth creating a test version with these things fixed to see if that solves the loading problem for those users who have it.

Evan Garmaise · 6 Mar 2011, 01:22

I checked with my users and fixing #2 above fixed the problem. schorradt, just create a .rb file in your subdirectory with one line: "Sketchup::require " and then the name of your scrambled file. Then load that .rb file out of your loader file using SketchupExtension. That will fix the loading problem for your users who have it.