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    • A Offline
      AlexMozg
      last edited by

      @thomthom said:

      Jim's ContructionLine tool wasn't working correctly under M0 - I could not set custom stipple. Now it works.

      My Contruction Line tool (stipple):
      'Continuous' [-----------] stipple=65535 doesn't work!
      'Dashed-1' ['- - - - - - - - -'] stipple=49344 doesn't work!
      'Dashed-2' ['- - - - - - - - - - - -'] stipple=13107 doesn't work!
      'Dashed-3' ['– – – – – – –'] stipple=62 doesn't work!
      'Dashed-4' ['–– –– –– –– –'] stipple=65280 doesn't work!
      'Dashed-5' ['––– ––– ––– –––'] stipple=65520 doesn't work!
      'Dot-1' ['····················'] stipple=34952 works!
      'Dot-2' ['·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ··'] stipple=65 doesn't work!
      'Dot-3' ['··· ··· ··· ··· ··'] stipple=273 doesn't work!
      'Dot-4' ['···· ···· ···· ····'] stipple=170 doesn't work!
      'DashDot-1' ['–– · –– · –– · ––'] stipple=65299 doesn't work!
      'DashDot-2' ['– · – · – · – · – ·'] stipple=543 doesn't work!
      'DoubleDot' ['––··––··––··––··'] stipple=65300 doesn't work!
      Jim's ContructionLine tool (stipple):
      ["_", ".", "-", "-.-"] - works!
      😢

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      • A Offline
        AlexMozg
        last edited by

        Now, using the contextual menu "nil" printed to the ruby console...
        Why?

        ❗

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          Did the other stipples work before?
          I've only ever used the ones documented: "_", ".", "-", "-.-"

          @alexmozg said:

          Now, using the contextual menu "nil" printed to the ruby console...

          what you mean? nil is printed to the console when you right click?
          I don't see that. Must be a plugin that outputs that.

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            I'm confused by your 4.1
            I have no problems with selecting 3D polylines etc... can you expand on the problem?

            Also with these guide-line stipples... all stipples were broken in the original v8 now it's fixed for the standard ones... BUT where did these 'custom cline stipples' come from by number ? I've never seen them before - and therefore I've never used them... Who compiled the list - the codes must have changed with v8 - they do work in v7...

            Does Google have a new list of number codes ? 😕

            TIG

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              AlexMozg
              last edited by

              @tig said:

              I'm confused by your 4.1
              I have no problems with selecting 3D polylines etc... can you expand on the problem?

              I can't select normally a 3D polyline with one or double mouse click or the intersecting frame, only if all 3D polyline is inside in frame, but contextual menu not probably to see - current selection is empty.

              @unknownuser said:

              ...I've never seen them before - and therefore I've never used them...

              cline.stipple always returns the number of stipple
              cline.stipple= also takes the values as Integer
              And it turned out that the stipple of cline can be varied over a very wide range.
              Unfortunately now it's not ... 😢 😢 😢

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                AlexMozg
                last edited by

                Yes, it is undocumented stipples, but they worked to Sketchup 7 inclusively.
                "nil" printed to the ruby console if there are assigned hot keys on the user tools allocated in the shortcut menu. Like so...

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @alexmozg said:

                  @tig said:

                  I'm confused by your 4.1
                  I have no problems with selecting 3D polylines etc... can you expand on the problem?

                  I can't select normally a 3D polyline with one or double mouse click or the intersecting frame, only if all 3D polyline is inside in frame, but contextual menu not probably to see - current selection is empty.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  ...I've never seen them before - and therefore I've never used them...

                  cline.stipple always returns the number of stipple
                  cline.stipple= also takes the values as Integer
                  And it turned out that the stipple of cline can be varied over a very wide range.
                  Unfortunately now it's not ... 😢 😢 😢

                  The 'numbers' for the stipples have probably changed that's all - we need a new list ?

                  I CAN select a polyline [curve] using the correct mouse-clicks and by a fence [right-left] so some part of it is inside that fence.
                  The ability to select it isn't affected by how much of it I can see in the main window [frame?]
                  When it's selected Entity Info correctly lists it as a 'Curve'.
                  What is your reference to a 'context-menu' - how is that related to a selected Curve ? Explode Curve - is there ??
                  😕

                  TIG

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                  • A Offline
                    AlexMozg
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    The 'numbers' for the stipples have probably changed that's all - we need a new list ?

                    No, the numbers remained the same, it can be verified at the time of insertion of these clines (Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V)

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I CAN select a polyline [curve] using the correct mouse-clicks and by a fence [right-left] so some part of it is inside that fence...

                    Not polyline [curve] and the 3D polyline!!! Look at the attached file.


                    3D polilines sample


                    3Dpolyline.jpg

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      At last I understand...
                      A 'Curve' drawn by the Freehand tool is called a '3d Polyline'.
                      A 'Curve' made by other means is a 'Curve'.
                      The Freehand-type '3d Polyline' does display the problems you listed.
                      If you select it and use the main Edit menu to Explode it and immediately 'Weld' it back into a 'Curve' the problems are gone.
                      Why do you use so many '3d Polylines' ?
                      I can't see any benefit in using them for many of the edges you have in your example SKP ?? 😕
                      OK it needs fixing BUT it is workaround-able - I have never had the problem as I rarely use these types of edges as there are easier things to do and to edit alternatives...
                      On checking I find that in v8 at least all of my Freehand generated curves are made as 'Curves' NEVER '3d Polylines'... UNLESS I hold down the 'Shift' key - then they do come out as 'thin' 3d Polylines ????? BUT why would I ever want to do that 😕 😕

                      TIG

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                        AlexMozg
                        last edited by

                        @tig said:

                        Why do you use so many '3d Polylines' ?
                        I can't see any benefit in using them for many of the edges you have in your example SKP ??

                        3D polylines are slightly extend the capabilities of the drawing.
                        I use them when necessary so that the edges and curves were with thickness (profiles > 2 in style of drawing), and 3D polylines are thin.
                        File with an example (in my post above) - is only an example of 3D Polylines and not an example of my work.

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                        • T Offline
                          TriciaS
                          last edited by

                          Hi all,

                          Yes - we do have a known bug with selecting 3d polylines (created by holding Shift down when using the Freehand tool) which was introduced in 7.1 with the changes to speed up rendering/selection. It didn't make the cut for 8.0 or 8.0 M1 as it is not an easy fix and we haven't heard lots of reports about it (probably given that it is a pretty hidden feature).

                          I added this thread to the bug we have though and will designate it in a way that will give it more visibility.

                          Thanks for bringing it up,

                          Tricia
                          Google SketchUp

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
                            last edited by

                            For the 3dpolylines, I found that you can select them by using the selection tool, making a window from upper left to lower right, crossing over just the end point of the polyline. So the entire line does not necessarily need to be in the window, just the end point, and you have to drag the selection window in the correct direction.

                            Chris

                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                            All my Plugins I've written

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                            • Dan RathbunD Offline
                              Dan Rathbun
                              last edited by

                              @chris fullmer said:

                              For the 3dpolylines, I found that you can select them by using the selection tool, making a window from upper left to lower right, crossing over just the end point of the polyline. So the entire line does not necessarily need to be in the window, just the end point, and you have to drag the selection window in the correct direction.

                              That selection mode is butt-backwards! If I face away from the computer does it work correctly ? 😛

                              I'm not here much anymore.

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                              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                Chris Fullmer
                                last edited by

                                @dan rathbun said:

                                If I face away from the computer does it work correctly ? 😛

                                That depends on which hemisphere you are in. I think that is accurate for the northern hemisphere, but in the southern, you might also need to stand on your head. 😄

                                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                All my Plugins I've written

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  I find scarifying a chicken to give good results.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                    Dan Rathbun
                                    last edited by

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    I find scarifying a chicken to give good results.

                                    I didn't know you were a sadist, Thom.
                                    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scarifying

                                    I'm not here much anymore.

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                                    • bradB Offline
                                      brad
                                      last edited by

                                      I can respond to the Construction Line Stipple issue. I have verified the custom line stipple patterns worked in SketchUp 7 and not in SketchUp 8. I'm not sure if the integer value for the Stipple patterns have changed or not. If and when I find out I will respond here. I have logged a bug in database about the stipple problem, thank you.

                                      Brad
                                      SketchUp QA

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                                      • J Offline
                                        Jim
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks Brad! As far as I know, only the 4 stipple types have been documented. If other types are supported, it would be great to get those documented and to be able to use them.

                                        Hi

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