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  • K Offline
    kalu
    last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 01:17

    @unknownuser said:

    No hassle guys, my point is that kalu has yet to tell where the difficulty is? Having Eli supply what we need to know may still not provide the level of info that the general user would need. I was trying to get kalu back to where he was originally, and for the members to help him learn. You only learn through mistakes

    I'd prefer that this type of organic shape is discussed and given different methods of creation....

    For example...

    drag this image into SU

    http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/6.jpg

    Use thomthoms Bitmap to Mesh to create it....
    [attachment=0:1rcqsmy9]<!-- ia0 -->Kalu.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1rcqsmy9]

    Use Polyreducer from here maybe?

    This is an option from someone who has knowledge of plugins and techniques etc... We need to know kalu's user level so we can help from that level.

    I understand kalu frustration, but not his outburst? Eli's a valued member and invested time and effort to produce the model, plus offered to help kalu? Most of us see the challenge but not user's problem...

    As I say to you I put 2 days in this without any good Idea and I tell Eli that I have no clue about the process and he only made bad comments about me tell me that I am lazy. When I ask for the process he just ask for money, so I do not understand where he stand in the process to learn.

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      solo
      last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 01:23

      @unknownuser said:

      When I ask for the process he just ask for money, so I do not understand where he stand in the process to learn.

      Edit*

      After reviewing the PM's in moderators forum, there does not seem to be any indication that he asked for compensation.

      http://www.solos-art.com

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      • K Offline
        kalu
        last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 01:24

        I Use thomthoms Bitmap to Mesh also and I came to the almost the same model that you show but I will keep looking for a different way. I hope all we understand ELI's way. I keep try. When I will arrive to the closest way to create the original model I will make a Step by Step tutorial for all. I am not selling 3D models, I am an Architect.

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        • S Offline
          solo
          last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 01:33

          Kalu, I tried one way to help you (as per pm), tomorrow I will give it another go and show you if I succeed, I do it as a Moderator and a fellow Sketchupper, I need no compensation I do it because I want to help.

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          • K Offline
            kalu
            last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 01:45

            @solo said:

            Kalu, I tried one way to help you (as per pm), tomorrow I will give it another go and show you if I succeed, I do it as a Moderator and a fellow Sketchupper, I need no compensation I do it because I want to help.

            Solo I really appreciate your words, but most important I learn from you and many others to create and sharing knowledge. Don't worry about this post. I am glad you understand what I try to accomplish, not for myself, not for sale, not for pride, just for all. Thanks again and don't worry. I will keep try.

            "Money can't buy Knowledge, you only are rich when you share your knowledge to others".

            A sample of what I create!

            http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/3dpanel.jpg

            THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY IS WHEN FICTION HAS TO BE CREDIBLE

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            • E Offline
              ely862me
              last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 08:45

              My dignity has been touched!

              I received 5 message in a row from mr kalu,i responded to 3 of them and i didn t asked for money in any of them.
              I' m not stupid,don't take me as one,i will call trial over this matter.
              Although you(mr kalu) sent me private messages I will post them here ,including my replay.You agree with that mr kalu?Let's make light in here!!

              You call me ''kid'' but who's acting like one?

              I am very reluctant to people who show no result at all..they just try for ''hours''...Sharing my model for you will be for no help,because it is a final model,and you can't learn a thing from it,but just use it.

              Elisei (sketchupper)


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                thomthom
                last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 10:03

                @unknownuser said:

                For example...

                drag this image into SU

                http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/6.jpg

                Use thomthoms Bitmap to Mesh to create it....
                [attachment=0:3jnv3vzn]<!-- ia0 -->Kalu.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3jnv3vzn]

                Use Polyreducer from here maybe?

                It's be better to resize the bitmap down first. That's effectively polyreducing it. You can usually get quite brutal with the resizing. Keep the original size in the scene and apply that as a texture on top of the mesh created from the smaller version.

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 10:34

                  I also played with the concept of tracing the contours in Photoshop to give the mesh a more defined ridge. But this is just to highlight another option for Kalu to try out. There's also TIG's Extrusion Tools that'd give a reasonable result.

                  @Eli
                  I would suggest to refrain from posting PM's here and that you can use the report feature or contact any of the mods personally if you have a grievance. It will be dealt with fairly.

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                    ely862me
                    last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 11:52

                    @kalu said:

                    I do not ask for a free model.

                    Yes you are-you keep doing that from ur second post of this thread.

                    @kalu said:

                    I've looking for a method to create the same result of the image.

                    Usually people upload at least an image to show the progress they got,at least to show the imported image into sketchup-but not you.

                    @kalu said:

                    What I got is a "Romanian way" explain in romanian witch almost all of us does not understand and some very helpful comments of some way to createe the model.

                    I know my english is bad,but i know when i m writing in english or romanian(do you?).
                    Please,define or explain what ''Romanian way'' means(should i take this as an offend ?)
                    I think that the explanations i gave and the picture i posted are enough at least to make few steps if not all.
                    I said trace over(and i showed it in the first picture),i said move the edges(and i showed it in the second picture).
                    These 2 steps were piece of cake,only if you would have tried .

                    @kalu said:

                    Sorry "ely862me" I have no money for you, this is a forum to share knowledge no to show who is the only one can make a model.

                    I didn't asked a dime from you,if it is otherwise,prove it .
                    I have shared my knowledge with you.
                    "Money can't buy Knowledge, you only are rich when you share your knowledge to others".
                    I am richest than you,because i have knowledge and i HAVE shared it.For your knowlede,''Knowledge'' is not a product,it is a way to achieve a product.

                    @kalu said:

                    I contribute for some time in the forum but you can keep your precious model for you, I hope you can sell it.

                    I have search all your posts(which are few) and i found nothing but asking for help,you call that contributing?
                    If i sell it or not it does not matter,and it is not your business but at least i know that i was able to do a product,and i showed,at least partially,a way of achieving it.

                    @kalu said:

                    I don't think that is a lot room for you here in this forum for share.

                    It is not for you to decide,I know i won't be able to payback all the help i got from this forum(especially to ruby developers),but i also can say that i tried to do my best,you can check it out if u have the patience to search over 100 posts in which i believe i offered my help(as i thought it will help).

                    @kalu said:

                    If you want to be consider in this forum, ask questions and "share" maybe does not exist that word in your language? or yes?

                    I don't know if i'm taken in consideration or not but that is not your business,at least few people here know who i am,do you?

                    Maybe i didn't explained enough(sorry for that) but still some steps could have been made.

                    I'm done here.
                    I apologize to all who had to see this debate,but i had to put things in order .
                    😐

                    Elisei (sketchupper)


                    Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                    Come and See EliseiDesign

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                    • numbthumbN Offline
                      numbthumb
                      last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 12:26

                      No reason to apologise, as far as I am concerned - I am used to such clashes, I guess they´re inevitable - but what´s really annoying (or offensive) are such "Romanian", "Chinese", or any other prefixes.
                      Arguing with people is one thing, insulting them is totally different.

                      Comfortably numb...

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 12:37

                        Guys, today it is Christmas Eve and I hope you all will be a little bit more forgiving and understanding with each other.

                        I really do not wish to get involved (into "judging") unless it gets out of control and ultimately necessary so please, be peace with you.

                        Gai...

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                        • numbthumbN Offline
                          numbthumb
                          last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 13:01

                          Touché. In accordance with Elisei´s signature 😄

                          Comfortably numb...

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
                            last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 13:38

                            Eli,

                            I have got the background information on this matter and I see NO reason for you to apologize whatsoever! This was my initial reaction on first viewing the matter as I have known you for some time and always found you to be honest, honorable and helpful but after first investigating matters I and now sure this to be the case.

                            Kalu,

                            While I do not know you, other than what I can learn from your your posts here on SCF, I would suggest to you that its YOU that should apologize to Eli immediately.

                            You seem to be under the impression that the SCF forum is a place to jump in and, by right, get information to sort out your problems! Its not! Its a place that members, at their own discretion, help or not! Also if they decide to help its their choice as to the extent of the help they wish to offer.

                            In most open forums help is earned! I often notice that the generous members offering their help / advise / content upload etc etc get instant and comprehensive help either on the open forum, which benefits all, or via PM when they are in need of help themselves. In other words, the freeloaders get little help while the generous contributors get a lot of help when they need it.

                            Slurs of any sort are NOT tolerated here! I would suggest that you mend your ways if you wish to remain a member here on SCF and start with an apology to Eli.

                            Mike

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                            • K Offline
                              kalu
                              last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 17:19

                              Eli and his foloowers,

                              I have PM messages from Eli says that nothing is for free, so you can figure out, just translate that for me. I do not respond all the messages in the original post so some of his responses are there all my are almost in PM messages.I will not apologize to him or any others that thinking in this way. I ask many times in PM messages to explain better and he refuse to do more explanation. So I move in this matter, forgot eli and what ever guy that follow and I will continue looking for a method to create that wall block. I am kind of tired to see who say he say, just put your method or questions or comments that are value. I thank you the people to take their time and effort to create a simple method for this post.

                              I work on Vray and PS maybe I can get the effect in the render with displacement instead the 3D model.

                              Kalu.

                              PS: For all that see the "Free cookie" thing, If I want that, I am a member of "Formfonts" for years and I can ask them to create the model for me, but I rather learn.

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                              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                Mike Lucey
                                last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 17:55

                                Kalu,

                                You are again casting slurs in your first sentence, 'Eli and his foloowers'! I presume you meant to write 'followers'!

                                I and the others that have commented on your attitude ARE NOT followers of Eli. As for myself, it is my job to maintain reasonable standards here on SketchUcation. I intend to do this at all times.

                                As for your last sentence, 'but I rather learn'! It looks to me that you are not interested in learning good manners and when to admit you have made a mistake and offer an apology. Unless you do so shortly I regretfully will ban you from SCF.

                                Mike

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                                • K Offline
                                  kalu
                                  last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 18:38

                                  This is an update in Vray, PH. not quite there...

                                  http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/artechedesign/basic_displac.jpg

                                  I use displacement (2) and I invert the Image in PH and use levels to adapt the contrast to create the bump map.

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                                  • K Offline
                                    kalu
                                    last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 18:43

                                    @ely862me said:

                                    Let see what is the problem ,where u get stuck.

                                    Thank you for your time and help , I apology for my comments you are great.

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 18:48

                                      Can we consider this unfortunate incident over? Kalu if you've a model already made but not what you need could you upload to see where your problem lies?

                                      It will help to see your exact failing and we can continue from there?

                                      Rich

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                                      • MarianM Offline
                                        Marian
                                        last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 19:02

                                        On a less serious note, here's my superfast super simple non accurate attempt which may be easier to understand for a beginner, but you need the Subdivide and Smooth plugin.

                                        http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/358/c/8/tutorial_simple_wall_tile_by_marian87-d35kshm.jpg

                                        http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                        • K Offline
                                          kalu
                                          last edited by 24 Dec 2010, 19:06

                                          Thank you Marian for the quick Tutorial I will try that. I attach the Vray displacement model that I use now.

                                          Thanks for your quick and great tutorial.

                                          PS. What is the SDS plugin for softness?


                                          Vray 1.48.89 sketchup 8

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