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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      These 'clash' problems are usually from some unforeseen results when rewriting existing methods, that then screw up another script's functionality.
      For example, I suspect that the Sketchyphysics 'problem' with EEby.. tools and others is perhaps down to it somehow rewriting the Sketchup Group.copy command, that should return the copied group's 'id' but returns nil instead - it's probably been recast to allow copying of groups with/without attributes etc [?] but it just hasn't got a return new_group as it completes.
      It's probably an easy fix but until someone finds out that it's a problem then it'll go un-addressed...
      πŸ˜’
      Using global variable ($xxx) is also a recipe for clashes unless they are very oddly named etc since the load order of scripts will overwrite these with the last version...

      TIG

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        Jim
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        I suspect SketchyPhysics was not the problem, or if so not in an obvious manner. It either is or it is not redefining the method, and 'somehow' redefining it isn't a good enough explanation. I didn't find in SketchyPhysics where it was redefining Group.copy. Hopefully Chris will confirm.

        Hi

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          Jim
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          I recently looked at 2 specialized plugins - pachube and phlatscript. Both of these use copious numbers of global variables and define methods in the global namespace.

          Hi

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @jim said:

            I suspect SketchyPhysics was not the problem, or if so not in the way you believe. It either is or it is not redefining the method, and 'somehow' redefining it isn't a good enough explanation. I didn't in SketchyPhysics where it was redefining Group.copy. Hopefully Chris will confirm.

            I agree that grepping through all of the current SP rubies there is no redefining of group.copy... but it was still apparently conflicting with it in some cases. It's weird... Might xrok1 have some old SP rubies that mess up ? I only have the current SP set - and of course I don't get the problem at all ! πŸ˜’

            TIG

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              xrok1
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              ahhh! πŸ˜„ i thought this debate may pop up so i saved a copy of the offending SP version. take a look! πŸ˜‰


              BADSetupSketchyPhysics3x-Jun27.rar

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                Jim
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                Cerebral Meltdown SunPosition
                http://www.cerebralmeltdown.com/projects/sunplugin/

                • Re-defines Float.round
                • Adds to_deg and to_rad to Numeric (not needed API already has .degrees and .radian methods.)
                • Adds to_fl to Float class - supposed to handle commas in floats?

                Possible conflict with Curviloft:

                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=28586&p=256061#p256061

                Hi

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  Has any one approached the developers?

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                    Jim
                    last edited by

                    SCF Toolbars installs extensions.rb file in the Plugins folder. It already exists in the Tools folder, and may cause errors.

                    reference: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=30092#p264035

                    Hi

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                      Jim
                      last edited by

                      sunposition.rb by cerebralmeltdown over-rides Ruby built-in methods Float#round, and can effect other scripts.

                      via http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=28586&start=240#p265784

                      Hi

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        @jim said:

                        Cerebral Meltdown SunPosition

                        • Adds to_fl to Float class - supposed to handle commas in floats?

                        It added the method to the String class. Because in some user locales the decimal separator is comma instead of period.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          PurpLev
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                          TrueTangent.rb is overriding Float::=~ which is the regular expression operator with a unique function that disables regular expression functionality altogether.

                          My suggestion to all those that override global built in classes to avoid it as other scripts may rely on the basic functionality being there and operable. just create a new child class of the built in class and use your own classes in your code if you need to change their functionalities.

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                            thomthom
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                            That's TIG's script: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=19457

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              That code's been around for ages without any complaints... The =~ isn't a standard method for the Float Class [at least in my 'prgamatic' documentation]: it's a new one I made up to compare two floats as being approximately equal, and 'Regexp' isn't part of Float... is it ??
                              Any ideas from better Ruby gurus than me ????

                              class Float
                              	def =~(num2,tol=10000)
                              		num1=(self*tol).to_i
                              		num2=(num2*tol).to_i
                              		return true if num1==num2
                              		return nil
                              	end
                              end #class Float
                              

                              How do I 'isolate' it to avoid possible clashes [with an 'example' please] - if necessary...

                              TIG

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @tig said:

                                That code's been around for ages without any complaints... The =~ isn't a standard method for the Float Class [at least in my 'prgamatic' documentation]: it's a new one I made up to compare two floats as being approximately equal, and 'Regexp' isn't part of Float... is it ??
                                Any ideas from better Ruby gurus than me ????How do I 'isolate' it to avoid possible clashes [with an 'example' please] - if necessary...

                                TIG,

                                The issue is not so much that you add a new method. It is rather the potential clash if another script writer has the exact same idea (and he may have it, because it seems simple and elegant). Then if several scripts define the method =~ with different precisions or even different meanings, some scripts may potentially not work and this may be hard to find out what is the cause.

                                The normal approach would be to introduce a regular method like " float_compare(a, b)". It is less elegant, but at least it is only visible in the script own scope.

                                Fredo

                                Fredo

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Fredo.
                                  I'll make a fix... πŸ˜’
                                  [Edit: done.]

                                  TIG

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                                    Jim
                                    last edited by

                                    Rick's offset.rb and wikii's FAK.rb (Follow and Keep) both define an #offset method for Array and Sketchup::Face classes. May the last one loaded win.

                                    Hi

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                                      Jim
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                                      Didier Bur's dline.rb adds (yet another) offsetPoints method to Array, but then never utilizes the method. Also resets a global $debug to false.

                                      Hi

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        The old MatchBox plugin is known to have caused problems. Even the new (1.1) version still mess up the base classes:
                                        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12893

                                        (I'd prefer if we didn't distribute this plugin at SCF...)

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Train Simulator 1.2 exporter by Paul Gausden
                                          mstsx.rb

                                          Reported by Tomaz: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12423&hilit=matchbox&start=15#p103041

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            hmm... another benefit a plugin manager could have: check for conflicting plugins from a blacklist or known problem-plugins.

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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