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      CodyV1
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      It doesn't always take one mutation for a new breed to spark. Such as people that have both anatomy systems. The last I heard, not one of those people have had a child of that situation. It just counts on their parents and grandparents genes.

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        olishea
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        @unknownuser said:

        Such as people that have both anatomy systems

        what exactly do you mean?

        evolution is based on mutation is it not

        all it takes is one dominant mutated gene and the"flaw" will be passed on. Even if its recessive it will be passed on but may not have an effect.

        oli

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          CodyV1
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          People that have both male and female parts. Yes, eveloution is based on mutation.. But in my theroy as well as many other's: If treated in "normal" or usual conditions of a species, than one organism's flaw will grow faint and unique. If grown under the normal population and mated with a normal populater, the unique trait will become recesive and later forgoten as only reccesive traits can last two generations.

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            olishea
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            Yes I am not disputing what you've said..... hermaphrodite isn't a direct mutation is it.

            @unknownuser said:

            If treated in "normal" or usual conditions of a species, than one organism's flaw will grow faint and unique.

            What I am saying is....if the conditions are right and the mutation is beneficial to survival then the mutated species would thrive while non-mutants would die. Such as a species of birds who have mutated beaks.....on one island they have long sharp beaks (lots of insects/grubs etc) while on another island the same type of bird has a short, wide beak for crabs etc. This suggests that the two islands have split from one single island where all the birds were the same....so if the conditions are right then the mutation will thrive. This is evidenced all over the world on islands that have splintered from a larger one. Same species, different traits.

            The "chicken" must have had reason to cocoon its young in a shell. environmental conditions or otherwise. I imagine conditions in the past were not "normal" and relatively consistent like they are today.

            oli

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              CodyV1
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              I would assume that it is direct mutation. Many who suffer from this, their parents were exposed to some sort of poisons or hazeredous materiels in their life.

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                olishea
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                oh right lol well scrub that! but the rest still stands!

                but if hermaphroditism (is that a word?) was beneficial in a given circumstance....it would thrive! this is my point, but yes amongst general population it will fade away.

                so how do you go from egg to hermaphrodite? SCF that's how. πŸ˜†

                oli

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
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                  I've created a monster 😲

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                    CodyV1
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                    If you raise a religon, a new society and, a completly new system of ethics of hermaphadites that mate with themselves, then and only then can you have a species that can over power normal man kind.

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                    • olisheaO Offline
                      olishea
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                      lol i've just got the weirdest image in my head. 🀒 haha

                      OK chicken came first let's leave it at that!! πŸ˜†

                      oli

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                        CodyV1
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                        Hmmm... It seems like a rather inviting image to me. But anyway. Chicken = Egg

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                        • Jean LemireJ Offline
                          Jean Lemire
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                          Hi folks.

                          It is quite simple.

                          The dinosaurs where laying eggs.

                          The birds evolved from dinosaurs.

                          The chickens are birds.

                          Then, the chickens lay eggs.

                          But ... wait a moment ... what came first ... the dinosaur or the egg ?

                          Back to square one.

                          Just ideas.

                          Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                            CodyV1
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                            ... 😠 🀣

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                              @unknownuser said:

                              I've created a monster 😲

                              Chicken.jpg
                              Yes, you have Rich...

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
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                                The general thing we call an 'egg' arrived before the 'chicken'.
                                There were clearly creatures before 'chickens' that laid/made 'eggs'.
                                So what came before these creatures - certainly not an 'egg' as there would have been no creature to have laid/made it !
                                So the 'egg' must always come after its 'creator': even if you delve back into the dim past of evolution the primordial 'thing' that lays/makes the very first thing we might consider to be an 'egg' must have existed before the 'egg' comes into being, and at that point the 'thing' was some sort of genetic mutation that had stopped splitting its cells to reproduce and had instead laid/made an egg instead - indeed there were probably several failed 'egg' inventions before their creators thrived and so the 'egg' predates its 'surviving' creator quite readily ❓

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