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    • david_hD Offline
      david_h
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      I get it. The Chicken came first cuz he/she made the shell.

      Where did she come from?

      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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      • utilerU Offline
        utiler
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        @unknownuser said:

        I get it. The Chicken came first cuz he/she made the shell.

        Where did she come from?

        It was a 'she' I hope Dave...... or do we have another age old question? ๐Ÿ˜•

        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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        • david_hD Offline
          david_h
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          okay. . .my brain hurts now.

          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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          • C Offline
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            I can't stand the fact that it took generations to basicaly say "eveloution, something we already belived in happened here to".

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            • olisheaO Offline
              olishea
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              Perhaps chickens used to give birth like other species? and then one day a genetically mutated chicken made a rudimentary shell around the developing chick. Then bred with other chickens etc.... But i doubt chickens were the first species to make a shell!! I imagine the first egg-layer looked nothing like any creatures we have today. There is a fundamental reason why chickens lay eggs instead of letting the chick develop within the womb....perhaps they scientists should have explored that in more detail

              it only takes one mutation to be passed on through generations.

              oli

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              • Rich O BrienR Online
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                @Oli
                I never released you would've been so passionate about eggs? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                • olisheaO Offline
                  olishea
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                  sorry to disappoint you, but it's been me breaking into your house! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                  oli

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                  • C Offline
                    CodyV1
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                    It doesn't always take one mutation for a new breed to spark. Such as people that have both anatomy systems. The last I heard, not one of those people have had a child of that situation. It just counts on their parents and grandparents genes.

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                    • olisheaO Offline
                      olishea
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      Such as people that have both anatomy systems

                      what exactly do you mean?

                      evolution is based on mutation is it not

                      all it takes is one dominant mutated gene and the"flaw" will be passed on. Even if its recessive it will be passed on but may not have an effect.

                      oli

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                        CodyV1
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                        People that have both male and female parts. Yes, eveloution is based on mutation.. But in my theroy as well as many other's: If treated in "normal" or usual conditions of a species, than one organism's flaw will grow faint and unique. If grown under the normal population and mated with a normal populater, the unique trait will become recesive and later forgoten as only reccesive traits can last two generations.

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                        • olisheaO Offline
                          olishea
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                          Yes I am not disputing what you've said..... hermaphrodite isn't a direct mutation is it.

                          @unknownuser said:

                          If treated in "normal" or usual conditions of a species, than one organism's flaw will grow faint and unique.

                          What I am saying is....if the conditions are right and the mutation is beneficial to survival then the mutated species would thrive while non-mutants would die. Such as a species of birds who have mutated beaks.....on one island they have long sharp beaks (lots of insects/grubs etc) while on another island the same type of bird has a short, wide beak for crabs etc. This suggests that the two islands have split from one single island where all the birds were the same....so if the conditions are right then the mutation will thrive. This is evidenced all over the world on islands that have splintered from a larger one. Same species, different traits.

                          The "chicken" must have had reason to cocoon its young in a shell. environmental conditions or otherwise. I imagine conditions in the past were not "normal" and relatively consistent like they are today.

                          oli

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                            I would assume that it is direct mutation. Many who suffer from this, their parents were exposed to some sort of poisons or hazeredous materiels in their life.

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                            • olisheaO Offline
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                              oh right lol well scrub that! but the rest still stands!

                              but if hermaphroditism (is that a word?) was beneficial in a given circumstance....it would thrive! this is my point, but yes amongst general population it will fade away.

                              so how do you go from egg to hermaphrodite? SCF that's how. ๐Ÿ˜†

                              oli

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                              • Rich O BrienR Online
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                                  If you raise a religon, a new society and, a completly new system of ethics of hermaphadites that mate with themselves, then and only then can you have a species that can over power normal man kind.

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                                  • olisheaO Offline
                                    olishea
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                                    lol i've just got the weirdest image in my head. ๐Ÿคข haha

                                    OK chicken came first let's leave it at that!! ๐Ÿ˜†

                                    oli

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                                      Hmmm... It seems like a rather inviting image to me. But anyway. Chicken = Egg

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                                      • Jean LemireJ Offline
                                        Jean Lemire
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                                        Hi folks.

                                        It is quite simple.

                                        The dinosaurs where laying eggs.

                                        The birds evolved from dinosaurs.

                                        The chickens are birds.

                                        Then, the chickens lay eggs.

                                        But ... wait a moment ... what came first ... the dinosaur or the egg ?

                                        Back to square one.

                                        Just ideas.

                                        Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                                          ... ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿคฃ

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                                          • utilerU Offline
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                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            I've created a monster ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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                                            Yes, you have Rich...

                                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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