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    • keea1111K Offline
      keea1111
      last edited by

      Hi,

      Can someone help me figure out why sometimes, and seemeingly without cause, I become unable to get close to my model to work the details. When I zoom in, the model gets cut off, as if I'm opening up a wall, but in perspective I'm actually 8' or so away from my model. Now, it's very difficult to draw any detail. Anyone have any experience with this...much thanks, Keea

      KEEA

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        Slimdog
        last edited by

        I think its a common problem with sketchup I cant explain why but I am sure some one will. It may have some thing to do with your graphics card to. I usually just use the zoom extents button or you can right click and click zoom extents.

        Cheers

        S

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Hi Keea,

          This is a known issue called "Clipping". See if any of the below solutions can help:
          http://sketchup.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=36261

          (especially if you have imported CAD geometry far from the origin, really tiny or very huge model "distance" wise or some weird FOV set).

          Gai...

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          • keea1111K Offline
            keea1111
            last edited by

            Hi,

            You've identified the problem, but the things that were suggested didn't stop the camera clipping.  Strange that I have two copies of the same model in my sketch up, one works fine, I can zoom in, and the other is clipping.  Any other thoughts on this problem?  thanks,
            

            ps I'm moving to a mac next week from my PC, so hopefully this may solve the problem, but not sure...

            KEEA

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            • R Offline
              rickgraham
              last edited by

              @keea1111 said:

              ps I'm moving to a mac next week from my PC, so hopefully this may solve the problem, but not sure...

              It won't. Been there, doing that πŸ˜’

              Rick

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Are you really sure that in one of the copies there is no any stray geometry somewhere in outer space? Try to zoom to extents (Shift+Z) and select all (Ctlr+A). Or the FOV is exactly the same? (Switch to the Zoom tool (Z) and see what it says in the Measurement box).

                Was anything imported in the models?

                Gai...

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  Could be hidden geometry, on hidden layers etc.

                  It can also be guidelines or guide points, if they are far away they might cause the clipping, but Zoom Extent won't include them when zooming.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • keea1111K Offline
                    keea1111
                    last edited by

                    HI,

                    I can't detect any stray lines.  I do have a section plane hanging out in space above the models.  Very strange.  I'll attach my model and would you mind looking at it.  The FOV is 35 so that isn't the problem.  Now I notice when I'm doing my lay out and changing my perspective of the model there, the camera clipping is extreme there and I can't get a close up shot.  I did import some 2D trees.  thanks for your time,
                    

                    camera clipping model.skp

                    KEEA

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Your model is faaar away from the origin. See how far away your model axis are.

                      And when you do hit Zoom Extent - it does zoom far out, you can see teh model as a dot, the model axis far away, and a rectangle also far away. All the things mentioned earlier in this thread.


                      model.png

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • keea1111K Offline
                        keea1111
                        last edited by

                        Hi,

                        I didn't realize you can't have this kind of distance in sketch up.   The reason I do it this way, is so that my scenes don't show the other models, so when I send to LO, the background is clear.  Do I really need my models so close together at the axis point?  Are there any other solutions?  The model that was clipping was the one that was not too far from the axis. Anyway, I appreciate the feedback and the learning curve.  thanks,  Keea
                        

                        ps how do you all send your scenes to LO without having to spread the models out too far?

                        KEEA

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @keea1111 said:

                          The reason I do it this way, is so that my scenes don't show the other models, so when I send to LO, the background is clear.

                          You have multiple models in one file?
                          If so, use layers and scenes. Set up scenes where you hide/unhide layers to display what you want.

                          @keea1111 said:

                          Do I really need my models so close together at the axis point? Are there any other solutions?

                          Yes, SU handles large distances very poorly. Which is why when importing DWG or other files that one should ensure everything is close to origin.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • keea1111K Offline
                            keea1111
                            last edited by

                            HI Thom,

                            Thanks, that bit of advice makes sense. That helps a lot..thanks for your time here...I was doing the hiding and unhiding within some of my scenes, but never considered hiding other models...thanks and blessings,

                            KEEA

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                            • jgbJ Offline
                              jgb
                              last edited by

                              I had this problem in spades, then a while back Catamountain made a remark in passing that gets around this clipping problem, but does not eliminate it.

                              The reason clipping happens is due to perspective. As you get in close (in proportion to the models dimensions) SU cannot resolve the angularity (like our eyes can) and clips what it cannot draw. Setting field-of-view helps, but only a little.

                              To solve this problem, turn OFF perspective view. You can then get real close and personal with the entity. There will be no clipping as you get closer, but it will clip as you zoom out from the entity, exactly the reverse.

                              Two cautions before you turn off perspective (Camera - perspective).
                              If the drawing is dimensionally big or complex, select the entity first, or some line nearby. That makes it easier to find when you turn off perspective.

                              Zoom OUT so that the entity is some distance away and centered in the screen. Then turn off perspective. The view will shift a bit, and then you can zoom in as close as you want. If you don't zoom out, SU may get very far out and you could lose sight of the entity.

                              After you are done examining and fixing the problems, turn perspective back on.


                              jgb

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                              • keea1111K Offline
                                keea1111
                                last edited by

                                This problem has cropped up again. Does anyone know a maximum distance your model can be from the sketch up work space before this clipping begins. It seems once it starts, you cannot go backward, but have to copy all of you drawings to a brand new sketchup template, redo scenes, layers, etc. Giant pain. If there were a way to 'clear' the clipping, that would be great. thanks,

                                KEEA

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  If you ensure that you don't have small pieces of stray geoemtry far away you should be able to just move your model to the origin. There are plugins that will shift your model to be positioned near Origin for you.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • A Offline
                                    annmar
                                    last edited by

                                    hi the same thing had happened to me.. after a lot of searching i realized that there as a small line far away from the model. when you right click > zoom extend if the model does not fill the screen it means there is an entity floating in your workplane!!

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                                    • jgbJ Offline
                                      jgb
                                      last edited by

                                      Also make sure "Show hidden geometry" is turned ON. πŸ’­
                                      A hidden line or soft line way out there will drive you nuts if you can't see it.

                                      If you still have difficulty finding that wayward entity, do a "Select All" (EDIT; Select All) then GROUP the entire selection and that wayward entity will be at a far end of the bounding box, highlighted in blue.
                                      Delete it then explode the group.


                                      jgb

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                                      • syburnS Offline
                                        syburn
                                        last edited by

                                        I was also experiencing the same issue after importing a massive dwg and deleting like 100 layers. Almost had to resort to sending my SU file to this thread, but turned out to be hidden geometry. Thanks Thread.

                                        Do you think better to work of a jpg file and avoid these issues. But Dwg is so nice cos you can click to the points and its accurate.

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                                        • Z Offline
                                          Zacchia
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi
                                          If you set camera to parallel view then it does not cut off I guess...

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                                          • jgbJ Offline
                                            jgb
                                            last edited by

                                            @zacchia said:

                                            Hi
                                            If you set camera to parallel view then it does not cut off I guess...

                                            Not sure if Parallel View will prevent "cutting" (clipping), but as mentioned before, if you get "near field" clipping when zooming in, then zoom out a bit, and turn OFF perspective.
                                            Then zoom back in as close as you want.

                                            πŸ’­ You may want to select an entity at/near what you are zooming into to guide you back in after perspective is turned off, because the whole object will jump back in view.

                                            Note that when perspective is off, you will get "far field" clipping when you zoom out on a large object.


                                            jgb

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