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    • F Offline
      farbs
      last edited by

      Thanks for such quick replies guys,

      TIG's extrusion tools, looks exactly like what I am looking for.

      Where can I get that?

      -Scott

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      • soloS Offline
        solo
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        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=217663#p217663

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          With EEbyRailsCapture.PNG
          Also don't forget 'K-tools' - that includes a 3D graphing section where you input the equation and it makes the mesh...Capture2.PNG

          TIG

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            What is K-tools?

            The best free surface generator I know for some parametric surfaces is k3dsurf

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Crai Depot is busted so here it is...k_tools.rb
              (c) Klaudius "mail@klaudiuskrusch.de"

              TIG

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Thx ☀

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  @tig said:

                  Crai Depot is busted so here it is...

                  For weeks I used to be unable to access the ruby depot, too. It seems to have a new URL now:
                  http://rhin.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/RUBY_Library_Depot.htm

                  Google doesn't "know" about it yet - although the www version redirects here.

                  Gai...

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Thanks, I was wondering what was up 😕 😒

                    TIG

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      hey scott..
                      the problem with using any of these plugins for this type of shape is they are only skinning but not necessarily handling the most difficult part which is making the outlining border..

                      here's a pretty simple method and you can do it without plugins (though i used two: lathe and booltools)

                      not so detailed step-by-step 🙂

                      pringle_roof.jpg

                      dotdotdot

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Jeff

                        A succinct example of how to use two processes to achieve your goal quickly...
                        👍

                        TIG

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                        • charly2008C Offline
                          charly2008
                          last edited by

                          Hi,

                          Yesterday I also tried to construct this part, had then given up because I could not find the right approach. My thinking was so fixated on the extrusion tools by TIG. Nothing against the extrusion tools, but for this case it was the wrong tool choice.

                          I'm always fascinated how simple processes can solve a problem in Sketchup and this is also a reason why I love this forum.

                          The method Jeff used allows also to determine the exact dimensions of the geometric shape and it shows again how efficient Sketchup is. Thanks to all who delivered Ideas for solving this process.

                          Karlheinz

                          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                          • charly2008C Offline
                            charly2008
                            last edited by

                            Hi,

                            I have a question. Jeff started from a rectangular base. The shape from farbs looks like a trapezoid base like this one shown below (the saddle shape is made with TIGs EE by Rails).

                            If i scale the circle in the way like Jeff did it i have in this case a small problem. But how to avoid it? I know I could just delete the protruding edges. But that would not be a correct solution.


                            pringle_roof-2.jpg


                            pringle_roof-2.skp

                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              hmm.. maybe you're right.. it's not symmetrical along that axis..

                              if that's the case, you might want to try the taper tool in FredoScale to get your intersecting oval into more of a guitar pick shape...

                              exaggerated for illustration purpose

                              or, you could probably use the taper tool on the skp i posted above and arrive at a similar shape.. (i don't have much time to play with it now.. i'm supposed to be drawing something for work 😄.. must_get_off_the_net)

                              dotdotdot

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                OR make the 'saddle' a bit bigger than the ellipsoidal cylinder so that they do fully intersect ?
                                Why does the initial EEbyRails created 'saddle' have to be 'exactly the same size' as the cutting-shape - it could be a lot bigger, then you could easily erase the unwanted parts with no loss of detail ??? 😕

                                TIG

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                                • charly2008C Offline
                                  charly2008
                                  last edited by

                                  Jeff, thanks for your answer. I will try your tips and will present the results here.

                                  Karlheinz

                                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                  • charly2008C Offline
                                    charly2008
                                    last edited by

                                    Hello TIG,

                                    you're not wrong, so I could do it. But my endeavor was to move within the predetermined dimensions. One is always on the lookout for a better solution. Thanks for your advice.

                                    Karlheinz

                                    He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      as Jeff adviced i used Fredos Box Tapering tool to make it fit. The result is now perfectly.


                                      pringle_roof-2.jpg


                                      pringle_roof-2.jpg


                                      pringle_roof-2.skp

                                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                      • F Offline
                                        frv
                                        last edited by

                                        I was trying to use the soapskin & bubble tool but it does only seem to generate a flat surface. After that the tools seem not to have any effect. Maybe someone can help me see what I am doing wrong.
                                        Tx Francois

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                                          mac1
                                          last edited by

                                          @frv said:

                                          I was trying to use the soapskin & bubble tool but it does only seem to generate a flat surface. After that the tools seem not to have any effect. Maybe someone can help me see what I am doing wrong.
                                          Tx Francois

                                          you have to enter pressure values ( neg or pos) to get the surface to inflate

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