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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      I am currently using two extra scenes for my sun study of two different dates. I import the main model into each of the other models which is set up to their own time/date/timezone.

      Works. But it still bothers me that this change was made in regard to maintaining old models/projects.

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      • J Offline
        Jim
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        I can get a nice animation of the NorthAngle when clicking Scenes (using my plug-in,) but it doesn't work when playing the animation, nor does it export as video. 😠

        Hi

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        • J Offline
          Jim
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          So are we saying per-Scene Shadow Info is obsolete, and this is not a bug?

          Hi

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            No, scenes do have different settings for shadow - time and darkness lightness etc. but it appear that the timezone property for scenes are ignored. This is not mentioned in the manual at all.

            I reported it as a but - still awaiting reply. (SU-0623)

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @thomthom said:

              No, scenes do have different settings for shadow - time and darkness lightness etc. but it appear that the timezone property for scenes are ignored. This is not mentioned in the manual at all.

              Actually - I'm not really sure. It's all confusing what's been changed.

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
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                I said it above, but maybe got skipped over, I think those values are there for legacy support. I think that is probably where SU 6 kept them, and read them. But SU 7 does not, and its on purpose.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  hm... well, shadow info, time/date lightness, darkness on/off is set per page. But timezone is now dead except when it belongs to Model.

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Which fits perfectly with my theory that they removed anything that might appear to change the location of a model from the scenes. The model still holds info there, but SU does not read it. It only reads location info from the model object. And time zone could be considered a location info.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      @chris fullmer said:

                      And time zone could be considered a location info.

                      This is where I disagree.

                      It'd be interesting to see what Google replies to my bug report though.
                      Probably be worth asking them to clarify the changes into the manual as well.

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        @chris fullmer said:

                        Which fits perfectly with my theory that they removed anything that might appear to change the location of a model from the scenes. The model still holds info there, but SU does not read it. It only reads location info from the model object. And time zone could be considered a location info.

                        And yet - you can have different North direction per scene... πŸ˜’

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by

                          I think SU models still hold that information for legacy support, but I don't think it is being read or acknowledged anywhere in 7.0+, is it?

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            You can set up scenes with different north angles in SU7.0/1 - no problem. Good thing for when you set up illustrations where you want to control the shadow to give the best description of the geometry - which will vary from scene to scene depending on the camera.

                            So I don't see why one can't set different timezone per scene.

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              That is odd. I would guess that ability was only left for the shadow illustration reason. All in all though, it does seem rather frustrating.

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                yea - if you can set north angle for illustrational purposes, you should be able to set the timezone. Of the two - timezone doesn't affect the model location.

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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