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    • O Offline
      outland86
      last edited by

      Hi DWG is not useable for the CNC tool path software only DXF
      i do not want to create another step for the end user where they have to do yet another conversion with outside software

      not to sure why changing the camera that views the polylines should effect the actual drawings export dimensions
      can you tell me why this may have an effect ?

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        thomthom
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        @outland86 said:

        not to sure why changing the camera that views the polylines should effect the actual drawings export dimensions
        can you tell me why this may have an effect ?

        Because when viewing in perspective things gets distorted.
        When you export to 2d you are exporting what you see.

        To export exactly what's there, export in 3D - as the content exported is then 1:1 and not bound to the viewpoint.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          honoluludesktop
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          outland86, The fellows here who are trying to help you are probably too nice to complain about your attitude:

          "i cant believe that people could deal with these problems and still find this a useful program "

          "does google know that this is a problem?"

          Just because SU doesn't work the way you "think it should" doesn't justify your attitude. Floating point calculations is not exact, only precise. I don't know of a computer system that can does integer math. If it did, you would complain about speed!-{

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @thomthom said:

            @outland86 said:

            not to sure why changing the camera that views the polylines should effect the actual drawings export dimensions
            can you tell me why this may have an effect ?

            Because when viewing in perspective things gets distorted.
            When you export to 2d you are exporting what you see.

            To export exactly what's there, export in 3D - as the content exported is then 1:1 and not bound to the viewpoint.

            I've made tests and even with a pure plan view the dxf circle is NOT the right radius.
            With plan view and parallel projection a 1" circle 2d DXFs as 1.000014" [pretty good] BUT in pure plan view but with perspective 'on' - with the circle at z=0 it's ~16% out !

            Motto = always do a 3D DXF... that way a 1" circle is DXFed as a 1" circle always...

            TIG

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              outland86
              last edited by

              @honoluludesktop said:

              outland86, The fellows here who are trying to help you are probably too nice to complain about your attitude:

              "i cant believe that people could deal with these problems and still find this a useful program "

              "does google know that this is a problem?"

              Just because SU doesn't work the way you "think it should" doesn't justify your attitude. Floating point calculations is not exact, only precise. I don't know of a computer system that can does integer math. If it did, you would complain about speed!-{

              i did not know attitude even came into this equation
              but i am sorry if you were offended by anythiung i have said
              i appreciate all and everyones help more than you could know
              but did that justify your own ending remark
              pot calling kettle black me thinks πŸ˜„

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Offences aside...

                @outland86 said:

                pot calling kettle black

                Thanks for this proverb or saying or expression... - I am not a native speaker so when I realise there is something I exactly understand and we have one with the exact same meaning but totally different expression, I am always glad! πŸ˜‰

                Gai...

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @gaieus said:

                  Offences aside...

                  @outland86 said:

                  pot calling kettle black

                  Thanks for this proverb or saying or expression... - I am not a native speaker so when I realise there is something I exactly understand and we have one with the exact same meaning but totally different expression, I am always glad! πŸ˜‰

                  In England there's my favorite -"it's six of one and a half a dozen of the other..."- used when there's no real or meaningful choice in something - in the North it's simplified to -"it's six and two threes..."- πŸ˜„
                  I'm sure most cultures have something similar...

                  TIG

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                  • O Offline
                    outland86
                    last edited by

                    ah ok i see

                    its just that the CAD software i am used to working with adds dimensioned constraints to the 2d polylines in a given drawing and no matter how they are viewed they are always exported with those contraints in place
                    but i see now that this software does not function that way. no problem though its just a matter of knowing this information. and finding the workflow solution to achieve the same end result

                    thank you much for your input and work on this Tig and others and i am sorryif something i said pissed anyone off

                    regards

                    Paul

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      @outland86 said:

                      i am sorry if something i said pissed anyone off

                      I don't think you'd pissed anyone off - in fact, although I am a bit ashamed to push your topic a bit "off..." (so I am sorry for that), 😳 I am enjoying it, especially that you seem to be closer to a satisfying solution to your problem

                      TIG:
                      "pot calling kettle black" = "owl calling sparrow big headed" (here big headed meant literally)
                      "it's six of one and a half a dozen of the other..." = "it's nineteen of one and twenty but one the other..."
                      πŸ˜‰

                      Gai...

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                      • O Offline
                        outland86
                        last edited by

                        thank you

                        pot calling kettle black = pot is black from fire burning just like kettle so why is pot calling kettle black when he is also black πŸ˜„

                        not too sure where it came from but is somthing i grew up with in New Zealand and have bought too the USA i guess πŸ˜„ lol
                        perhaps in 50 years it will be part of the language here πŸ˜„

                        us kiwis have many of these little jibes and colloquialisms in our street speak my MInnesotan wife is forvewr looking at me sideways when i talk not knowing if i just insulted her of paid her a compliment πŸ˜„ usually its a compliment

                        fair sucka the sav aye mate = please give me a fair share of the credit from this deal or idea we are talking about

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
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                          @outland86 said:

                          pot calling kettle black = pot is black from fire burning just like kettle so why is pot calling kettle black when he is also black πŸ˜„

                          Yeah, I understood that (although never heard before). We have that sparrow one for the same meaning here. πŸ˜„

                          Gai...

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                            outland86
                            last edited by

                            here is what the wiki says about it

                            The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom used to accuse a person or thing of being marked with or guilty of the very thing they are pointing out

                            πŸ˜„

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Yes, exactly. Now if you think about it, if an owl (which is a bird with big head) says to the sparrow that it has a big head, it means the same (just of course, in Hungarian). πŸ˜‰

                              Gai...

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                              • O Offline
                                outland86
                                last edited by

                                here is a common one

                                Bob's your Uncle: roughly translates to 'there ya go - that's all there is to it!' Just press this big red button that says 'Launch Missile', and "Bob's your uncle".

                                i better go to bed before i make an even bigger dork of myself lol

                                thanks again for all your help

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  We drift off topic into the sunset......... 🀣

                                  TIG

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