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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      The old saying "If it sounds too good to be true.... it probably is"

      I'm still waiting for cold fusion and laser guns.

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        Anssi
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        @solo said:

        I'm still waiting for cold fusion and laser guns.

        I seem to remember that the commercially viable fusion reactor has been just some years away since the early 1970s...

        Anssi

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          tomasz
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          @anssi said:

          @solo said:

          I'm still waiting for cold fusion and laser guns.

          I seem to remember that the commercially viable fusion reactor has been just some years away since the early 1970s...

          Anssi

          You old pessimists... So many people has failed to deliver a working device that it make no sense to you to still believe in a breakthrough.

          I am surprised that Orbos are being driven by such a big battery. If the device is recharging the battery, why didn't they use a decent capacitor instead?

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            remus
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            Who needs to be pessimistic when theres hard facts? http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0624/1224249416758.html

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              TIG Moderator
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              You can't get something for nothing - it is a basic thermodynamic law... BUT you can move energy around to where you want it. Even Steorn fell into the trap of saying that their [now found to be flawed] gizmo 'broke the laws of the universe' ! ๐Ÿ˜’
              It didn't need to for it to produce more energy out of itself than you put in... I know at first glance this seems oxymoronic BUT just think about things you see every day... โ“
              A fridge/aircon unit moves heat energy from one place to another - it's not magic. A heat-pump uses 1kW of electricity but outputs say 3kW of heat - where'd that extra 2kW come from? it wasn't 'made', it was simply moved from somewhere else and 'concentrated' to useful levels - e.g. low-grade heat in ground-water or outside-air is moved into your home as useful heat to keep you warm. This does not break any 'laws' of the universe as the total amount of energy remains unchanged - it's just in a different place - your home is quite a bit warmer and outside is a tiny bit colder - since there's a lot more 'outside' than there is 'inside' the affects on the 'global' outside temperature is barely measurable. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
              So what does this mean? Well, my point is that if you can do this with simple heat energy it must be theoretically possible to make a gizmo that gets low level energy from other sources - e.g. the flux of the earth's magnetic-field or the solar-winds etc and then makes it available to you in a concentrated local form that's useful... Since electro-magnetic and electrical fields pervade everything it must be possible to 'tap' into them and 'borrow' some of that energy - it'd not be 'making it', it'd just be moving it to where it's needed in a useful form... โ˜€ ๐Ÿ’ญ

              TIG

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              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                Mike Lucey
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                I think you are right TIG in what you say. 'Moving' should be the operative word not creating by means of magic!

                I might pop up to Dublin a have a look at the machine in the new year! Check out this article 'Roll up, roll up to see the Irish perpetual motion machine!' http://www.gizmag.com/steorn-orbo-perpetual-motion-demonstration/13625/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=50d4d4bdbb-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email

                Tomaz, yes, I wonder why a 'decent' (size) capacitor was not used at least for the ongoing running of the machine, maybe with a battery to kick it off.

                Mike


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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
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                  Like most start-ups and speculation, I think the important thing is to move money, not energy, from one location to another.

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                    tomasz
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                    Introduction to an Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction - Part 1
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nae_I_Mus

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                      Jackson
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                      @pbacot said:

                      Like most start-ups and speculation, I think the important thing is to move money, not energy, from one location to another.

                      ROFLMAO! ๐Ÿคฃ

                      How true... from the pockets of gullible people to the off-shore bank accounts of con-men.

                      Jackson

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                        Fletch
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                        original links in all first post are now defunct... adding weight to the conspiracy theories... ๐Ÿ˜„

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                          notareal
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                          @pbacot said:

                          Like most start-ups and speculation, I think the important thing is to move money, not energy, from one location to another.

                          +1

                          We got also a local "celebrancy" with free energy iniative... so far best he has done was moving some loose money to his own pockets. I prefer not to link to his ventures, but if you really want to find out, search for "utele theory". ๐Ÿ˜’

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
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                            Came across 'New Japanese technology to solve world fuel crisis' recently at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fg0xeZSF0E Maybe worth looking at while having some beans on toast and a bottle of Coke ๐Ÿ˜‰


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                              notareal
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                              Did make a quick google search with technology terms used in vid 'New Japanese technology to solve world fuel crisis' and got this http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=470664
                              Seriously hope that these cars have no 'gas' problems. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              (seems that there was a blurry hint in the image)

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                                tomasz
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                                An update. They have prepared a solid state version that has no moving parts.

                                YouTube - Testing of the Orbo Evaluation and Development Unit
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