SketchUp 7.1?

jim smith · 27 Sept 2009, 17:12

I've been working on a project that has pushed SU 7.0 quite a bit. The task is to show potential storefront upgrades for two block of the Griffith Indiana downtown. The model for just the existing buildings grew so much I had to split it into separate blocks and only one side per file. The restored storefront versions are 70 to 80 Megs each. After upgrading to 7.1,I can now orbit and move around without taking a coffee break each time. Quite a bit of difference. I was a bit scared upgrading in the middle of a project like this, especially reading some of the horror stories on a few previous posts. So far, it has worked well, but I still have had several crashes but have not lost much. I assumed that models this large might tend to freeze up so I save often. Saves are quicker too. I havent tested the other upgrades and only briefly played with LO 2.1.

One issue I have noticed - in 7.0 and 7.1, after working on a model for a couple of hours, I notice that it becomes more prone to freezing up and notice that when selecting components, it will suddenly not alllow me to change to a different component folder. If I am in "Trees" I cant switch over to a "shrubs" folder etc. Then I know it is time for a save and I will end and restart GSU. All is normal after that - for a few hours.

Overall -I am pleased --- but--- still would like the back button on components!

massimo · 27 Sept 2009, 17:44

@unknownuser said:

Overall -I am pleased --- but--- still would like the back button on components!

Jim, you have that in 7.1.

jim smith · 27 Sept 2009, 18:58

@massimo said:

@unknownuser said:

Overall -I am pleased --- but--- still would like the back button on components!

Jim, you have that in 7.1.

Thanks Massimo - been so involved in the project I didn't notice

Aerilius · 27 Sept 2009, 20:51

The sensitive area where you can click to select an edge was increased, that means has become really difficult to select small faces whose bordering edges are very near.

Have others also encountered this? Do you think it should be more like in Sketchup 7.0?

JuanV.Soler · 27 Sept 2009, 22:03

@aerilius said:

Have others also encountered this? Do you think it should be more like in Sketchup 7.0?

I have, and surprised me for a while.
Now I know I dont have to insist in that way to clean some wrong tiny little lines.(it is better to hide the main and select all the others at once.)

If this had to be connected with the speed or other improvements, well, I would keep it as it is now.
It does not bother me too much, maybe because of the field I work, architecture.
yours ?

mpowell1234567890 · 28 Sept 2009, 00:19

@mike lucey said:

Only 4,900! Damn useless application. I must write a strong letter to Google

I agree, I could of imagine 4,900 3D tree's instead of 2D. I was hoping they can increase it to 10,000,000 tree's or more.. That's how many most forest's have..

I do believe they have an address..
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
Phone: +1 650-253-0000
Fax: +1 650-253-0001

I don't know their email address though..

Fletch · 28 Sept 2009, 13:49

WOO HOO!!!

I have now opened two SERIOUS PROBLEM SCENES in SketchUp 7.1.
I can actually Orbit AND use the WALK THRU TOOL in these now, and they open in seconds instead of minutes or never!

In 7.0 I wouldn't dareturn viewing of textures on in these or I could just forget about getting any work done.

Great work Google SketchUp team, and all beta testers hard at work back there... SketchUp just took a giant leap for me today.

With gratitude,

Edson · 28 Sept 2009, 13:51

perhaps not all problems we face are sketchup's fault. sometimes there are other culprits for them. a general check in one's setup could be a good idea.

i have upgraded to 7.1 and am not facing any of the problems described above.

RickW · 28 Sept 2009, 16:02

@xrok1 said:

until SU developers put every function that the scripters have added, into the core program, they will get NO respect from me.

So the folks at @Last (who are the same people still developing SU after the buyout) don't get any respect for implementing Ruby in SU, thus making all those wonderful plugins possible?

Second, @Last's stance (carried on by Google) is to focus on the core product development and generally leave the plugins to third party developers. Besides, why should they bloat the core product with "every function that the scripters have added"? There are very few plugins with near-universal utility, and "every function" is a LOT of stuff...

Oh, I did notice the wink, but wasn't sure how you meant it...

mpowell1234567890 · 28 Sept 2009, 18:24

@edson said:

perhaps not all problems we face are sketchup's fault. sometimes there are other culprits for them. a general check in one's setup could be a good idea.

i have upgraded to 7.1 and am not facing any of the problems described above.

Cool, that means they fixed it. No matter how much geometry is in the model it will still be fast. Awesome!

nilbleu · 2 Oct 2009, 12:04

I have SU 7 pro (French) on Mac OSX 10.6.1 (Snow Leopard) when I point on the upgrade menu it tells me I have the last version ??
I cannot find anywhere this uprade, is that because the upgrade is not in French already?
Thank you for helping me
EDIT:
When I go in center help US it speaks of SU 7.1 and in French center help... only SU 7! the answer can be there...
sooo... have to wait, somebody knows?

Gaieus · 2 Oct 2009, 12:43

Hi Nilbleu,

You are correct, the French (and some other, "localised" versions) have only been released in version 7.0. Hopefully they will also be upgraded soon.

But as you have Snow Leopard, don't worry. There seem to be a couple of problems between Leopard and SU 7.1 so by the time the French version comes out, these issues will also be fixed I guess.

Gaieus · 2 Oct 2009, 12:55

Thank God (and Google), there is no Hungarian version (yet?) so I don't have these problems.

(They have recently translated the Warehouse to Hungarian - what a mess! )

nilbleu · 2 Oct 2009, 13:11

Thank you Gaieus.
They could have left a word for the localised pigmees

Anssi · 2 Oct 2009, 18:42

@gaieus said:

(They have recently translated the Warehouse to Hungarian - what a mess! )

Yes, it's in Finnish too - abominable. The word they use for "model" would mean "stencil" in English.

Anssi

JClements · 4 Oct 2009, 01:03

@rickw said:

@xrok1 said:

There are very few plugins with near-universal utility, ...

Yeah, my feeling about "Weld.rb" ... it has been around for long time now and it must be a fluke since its not in the core program.

Gaieus · 4 Oct 2009, 07:52

Hehe...

About two weeks ago, I started to teach SU in a special, afternoon class to secondary school kids. For the time being, without (almost) any plugins as the Program files folder is not accessible only for admins on their network and I didn't want to hassle with it (also, I believe that one needs to learn the basics first).

Anyway, Weld was the only exception I asked the IT guys to install when they install SU on the computers. Yes, it IS part of the program (you just install it separately)

anglaret · 5 Oct 2009, 19:34

Hello
I read all the thread, and did not find notice of 2 problems we are having:

Selection is not good, it very often selects a group far from clik point, and other, I have
sometimes to go very near lines to select one; clicking above does not select the upper line
Sometimes drawing a line create a moving line which go far from chosen end-point.
Very annoying
Marc

Wacov · 5 Oct 2009, 20:26

One problem I'm getting with selection is the material sampler. If you're anywhere near an edge, it'll give you the default material

brodie · 5 Oct 2009, 21:17

@anglaret said:

Hello
I read all the thread, and did not find notice of 2 problems we are having:

Selection is not good, it very often selects a group far from clik point, and other, I have
sometimes to go very near lines to select one; clicking above does not select the upper line

Sometimes drawing a line create a moving line which go far from chosen end-point.
Very annoying
Marc

That sounds like a graphic driver issue. I had some random issues after downloading 7.1 as well. I don't think 7.1 necessarily works well with all the drivers that 7.0 did. I'd recommend updating to the newest driver and see what happens.

-Brodie