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    [SQ]Make a face to follow a section of a Circle ?

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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by

      [SQ] for simple questions I still asking me while I begin to get a reasonable control of SketchUp!

      I still knock my feet on this simple question: How can I use FollowMe Tool so that a face follows a section of a circle to obtain something like a "piece of cake" ??


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FollowAsection_th.jpg

      When I want to do so, I am forced to make the face following the entire circle and delete the unwanted section 👎 👎

      (To do so, I take advantage of using thomthom's Selection Toys >Quad-face Loop option (with unHidden geometry), and Jim's Selection Memory to store one by one the basic sections, and then Copy/Move my complete selection.

      💚 simon

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
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        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FollowAsectionb_th.jpg

        😕

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Yes, this has been such an old issue with the Follow me tool that we don't even consider it a bug any more, only a "feature" we have to learn to live with.

          Gai...

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
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            ah! "ok" 😒

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            • TIGT Online
              TIG Moderator
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              If you always want it around a circular arc segment then it could be readily scripted. A 'lathe' tool...
              You'd pick the arc to get the center and vertex points.
              Then get the vertex points of the face's edges.
              Copy these points and rotate them about the center by the angle subtended by the segment of the arc, then you'd keep copy/rotating them... and finally make a face from these mesh points...
              Alternatively you could select a continuous path of edges (a polyline ?), specify the swept angle and number of segments desired and pick the the 'center' ... It'd then copy the edges vertices around the centre point at a sub-division of the angle...

              TIG

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              • Jean LemireJ Offline
                Jean Lemire
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                Hi Simon, hi folks.

                The problem is caused by the fact that the cross section is not perpendicular with the first segment of the path. With such a situation, the "Follow me" Tool first rotate the cross section so it becomes perpendicular to the path and then do the actual follow along the path.

                For example, with a typical 24 segment circle, a cross section will be rotated by 7.5° in regard to the first segment. This value is half of the angle between two consecutive segments or half of 15° since 360° ÷ 24 = 15°.

                The simplest workaround is, as you discovered, to simply do a full 360° revolution around the circle and then to cut the required part.

                Just ideas.

                Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                • david_hD Offline
                  david_h
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                  Maybe I don't get the extent of the problem, but can't you just explode the circle and then select only the parts of the circle (arc) that would be the desired path?

                  D

                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    It's not that obvious. Here is an example where I would like to make a half dome for my favourite Romanesque church for instance. I marked the path you should select for the Follow me tool and the face that should be extruded along the half circle.

                    Hidden geometry is on to show the glitch immediately when you do it.


                    FollowMeQuirk.skp

                    Gai...

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
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                      dear TIG,

                      I'm afraid my english is a bit low to understand everything you explain. I have understood that I can help myself with construction points to make a grid to fill with handmade edges.. (my poor english..sorry).
                      If it is so, I'm not sure it is the quicker solution 😕


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FaS_TigSoluceth.jpg

                      dear Jean,

                      Your "Just ideas" seems to be the "right idea" (l'idée juste) 😄


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FaS_JLemireSoluceth.jpg

                      OOps! dear David and Gaieus, I was working on TIG and Jean suggestions while you come and I just discover your posts. It is late in the night I will test the skp tomorrow. 😉

                      with my sympathy simon

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
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                        dear Gaieus,

                        I have applied Jean's solution to your example with the same good result 👍 😍

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/FaS_Gieusth.jpg

                        **simon

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
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                          That's one solution of the problem however may (in the modelling phase) cause different problems as now your half dome does not "end" with an endpoint but with a face (flat and not pointy). Sometimes it will cause problems with alignment and such.

                          So for me, the easiest (and in fact, the fastest) way still remains the whole dome > halving it

                          Gai...

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
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                            @gaieus said:

                            ../as now your half dome does not "end" with an endpoint but with a face (flat and not pointy). Sometimes it will cause problems with alignment and such.

                            So for me, the easiest (and in fact, the fastest) way still remains the whole dome > halving it

                            Unfortunately I guess you are right 😕 😉

                            PS: But I understand now from where comes the problem and I understand too that there is probably no solution to solve it (by a ruby or by Google development of the code)

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                            • TIGT Online
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              "Lathe" tool now available here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=184477#p184477
                              🤓

                              TIG

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                woahoo!!

                                It's unbelievable. You are now such a master in Ruby that it seems (~~) you just now have to snap two fingers to produce a wonderful powerful tool...
                                Was it a tool you where already working on, or have you scripted it on the fly in "one day"!!! ❓

                                It is so easy to use 👍 It does exactly what I was asking for but also open on great else possibilities with the choice of the center. (Re: It would be great that the pointer snap with more evident inference to the geometry; may be 😉 )

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/lathe_Tigth.jpg

                                Thank you Tig,
                                simon

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Indeed, looks very cool, TIG, thanks! 👍

                                  Gai...

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