Lock toolbars

thomthom · 26 Feb 2009, 06:41

@unknownuser said:

Now, start on the toolbar problem

Ken

Hi Ken,

We do have some bugs recorded regarding toolbar issues. But I want to make sure we have the issue you are talking about. Can you give a quick description of it? Or maybe add it to the Bugs section?

Thanks in advance,

Tricia

http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=15752&p=125765&hilit=toolbar+problem#p122260
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9117&hilit=+toolbar
http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/02/sketchup-annoyances-toolbars.html <- Excellent illustration of the problem

And if you should accidentally click the Restore button in the SU window title bar, the toolbars are scattered all over the place.
If you add a new plugin which adds a new toolbar you risk it blowing up your entire toolbar setup.
I can't seem to some free floating toolbar to remain free floating between sessions, they reattach themself to the top edge. (V-Ray toolbar)
Freefloating toolbar's window are too small when you start up SU, it's like their size is initally calculated as if the icons where small. It restores itself when you click the toolbar though.

BUDLA · 26 Feb 2009, 08:31

I dondt remember where i download it,but it working in SU 6!
Maybe working in 7 too!

Budla

SKETCHUP_TOOLBARS_SETTINGS.pdf

BUDLA · 26 Feb 2009, 08:36

I dondt remember where i download it,but it working in SU 6!
Maybe working in 7 too!

Budla

SKETCHUP_TOOLBARS_SETTINGS.pdf

kwistenbiebel · 26 Feb 2009, 09:14

Any roadmap for future updates concerning the polycount bug,slowdown bug and shadow bug?

I guess not

Gaieus · 26 Feb 2009, 11:31

"Ceterum ceseo Carthaginem delendam esse..."

Gaieus · 26 Feb 2009, 11:37

These last posts were split off from the "Latest release" topic.

ken · 26 Feb 2009, 14:06

Well I see the toolbar issue has been moved because it was not on subject. To me, that was the subject. I downloaded the new maintence release, approximately 15 minutes total to download and install. Fire up Sketchup and wham bam, ready not to use. So now I spend hours trying to get my drawing space back. Even now into the next day I am still fighting to get the tools bars back to position I had them before the upgrade.

This disorder happens everytime I load a new toolbar. My solution until now, which with this new release seems harder to get the toolbars into position, was to have any toolbar I thought I might ever need loaded and finally after much fuss getting them into some condensed position, without losing a great deal of drawing space and save the file as my template.

What I really want is to start off with the minimum toolbars, add what I need, subtract what I don't need, and not spend the next hours trying to get my drawing space back.

Ken

Gaieus · 26 Feb 2009, 19:06

Hi Ken,

I can feel your pain. Do you thinkI loike rearranging my toolbars every time I install a new plugin or even if just resize my SU window? This should have obviously been fixed by now. Not in a way that they stay where you put them (that would be the minimum) but in a much more sophisticated way.

BUT I thinkit is obvious that with a simple maintenance release like this (when they generally fix some minor bugs mostly turned up by the big, main release only),this won't be solved.

Then what's new in the new release? Definitely not what is "not new"; a recurrent annoyance. That takes it OT and after almost a hole page going on about this, it needs to be split. The toolbar misery has it's own place - here.

ken · 26 Feb 2009, 22:10

Gaieus
I guess I was venting a little steam.

IMHO, the Google guys make a living by updating SketchUp and don’t use it for work, or they would know how much time is wasted trying to keep the most acreage on screen. Moreover, it not like it just popped up with the latest release or version. The problem has been here as far as I know since version 4.

So it is time, this has risen to the top my list of items that need a solution.

So thanks for your understanding of the my frustration, Gaieus.

Now, I will be quite and get back to work.
Ken

remus · 26 Feb 2009, 23:10

Im sure it will do very little to ease your pain, but if you get enough shortcuts setup it is quite possible to model entirely with shortcuts. Combined with a choice few toolbars i have found this to be the best solution.

xrok1 · 27 Feb 2009, 00:13

@unknownuser said:

BUT I thinkit is obvious that with a simple maintenance release like this (when they generally fix some minor bugs mostly turned up by the big, main release only),this won't be solved.

this is exactly the kind of things that service releases should be aimed at. whats the alternative, they fix it for ver.8 so they can sell it as a new feature? "buy sketchup8, now with toolbars that work the way they should." urrgh!

Gaieus · 27 Feb 2009, 08:59

@remus said:

Im sure it will do very little to ease your pain, but if you get enough short-cuts setup it is quite possible to model entirely with short-cuts. Combined with a choice few tool-bars i have found this to be the best solution.

I actually combine this with Jim's tool-bar plug-in and have stripped my SU window entirely off the tool-bars. Now the only "native" tool-bar is Jim's and there are a couple of plug-ins placed nicely under each other but everything is floating next to my SU window where I don't have any tool-bars.

About 80% of the cases I use short-cuts anyway and this allows me to "dump" all those icons the tool of which I'd use with short-cuts anyway and to keep only those plug-ins "alive" that I'm currently using for that particular model (e.g. I don't need the Kerky exporter or the IDX Renditioner tool-bars) while modelling.

Yes, I KNOW this is a sort of workaround (but this is SketchUp after all and we are masters at workarounds, aren't we?) but has one very big advantage as well; since Jim's script stores the tool-bar info in an external file, I can set it up once and carry it from computer to computer without any problem.

notareal · 27 Feb 2009, 09:07

@a4chitect said:

there is a little trick to help you, once you are happy with your toolbar arrangement, close sketchup (the UI gets saved internally). anytime your screen gets resized, or messed up, or your toolbars change - don't close sketchup, open another instance of sketchup - this one opens with the original UI. then close both windows but make sure that you close the clean and tidy @last

this way your clean UI gets saved as last overwriting the messy one (since all instances of sketchup share one UI setting)

Thanks for the tip. This has been one major annoyance.

putnik · 15 Mar 2009, 21:53

+1
Registry tweak works OK only till the next installation of a new script with toolbar which is always followed by another toolbar chaos. Google, please fix this.

RayOchoa · 15 Mar 2009, 23:47

+1 happened to me today

Pixero · 19 Mar 2009, 06:33

I've found a good way of placing toolbars is to click in the lower left part of a menu and release it at the upper left part where you want it it doesnt "jump back" to where it was.

Pixero · 19 Mar 2009, 06:38

@unknownuser said:

Bump.

I added a couple new ruby scripts today and what do you know... all my toolbars were flung all over my screen. And then I had to fix it all over again at home.
Please fix this Google.

When ever I add a new script it A L W A Y S the Sandbox toolbar that moves around and mess things up. Is it the same for you?

thomthom · 19 Mar 2009, 07:58

@pixero said:

When ever I add a new script it A L W A Y S the Sandbox toolbar that moves around and mess things up. Is it the same for you?

Nopes. Any toolbar. Often all.

MALAISE · 20 Mar 2009, 17:55

You can also using the Toolsbar Menu, unselect all items. Close SU and reopen, you'll get a brand new space and reselect step by step all favourites !
But it looks like some dressing ( first aid) on a piece of wood ( very bad translation's French say )

MALAISE

halroach · 26 Aug 2009, 10:56

The Jumping Toolbar Syndrome! - PARTIAL SOLUTION
Sometimes I find myself battling the toolbars to get them all tight and snug (after the installation of a new ruby toolbar).
for example:
I have three lines of toolbars lets say, and two of them are full, with the third line containing only a few buttons. I then try to place another toolbar on the third line, and instead of if being placed right next to it, it's placed on a fourth line, wasting all that space on the third line... argggh

I have found a solution to the jumping toolbar problem!
you must pack and cram each line of toolbars all the way to the end, until one of the toolbars get cropped, and then cram one more toolbar until one of the toolbars shifts to the next line automatically (sort of like an auto carriage return, or wordwrap). Now you can rearrange the toolbars on the third line, and they won't jump around! and you can replace the cropped toolbar from the second line to the third line too...

Hope This Helps Someone