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    thomthom
    last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 15:01

    @tekkybot said:

    its just that some plugins are hard to figure out like soapskin and bubble , skin, and tools on surface. i almost dont even want to bother πŸ˜’

    Yes, soapskins and bubble is really awkward. However, it's a very useful tool of you ever need to do tensile structures. You can look at it in this way: how much time you spend on learning a new plugin versus how much time you would spend doing it manually every time.

    I've heard many people say: "I don't have time to learn new things. Time is money." Which is only looking at it in the short terms. In the short terms you 'lose' a bit of time. But if you look at it in the long terms, it save allot of time once you've mastered it. that that saves much more money.

    With so many things around us that 'just work' it's easy to give up without giving it a try. But if you do give it a try you'll more likely than not get your value for it.

    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      dylan
      last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 15:05

      I agree some do seem difficult to work out and many you cannot work out there true potential without a full demonstration/video.
      I suggest if there are any you are particularly interested in, post here your questions and we will try and help/explain further.

      http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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        Tekkybot
        last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 15:08

        ok. what is soap skin and bubble and how does it apply to modeling with sketchup?

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          thomthom
          last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 15:15

          @tekkybot said:

          ok. what is soap skin and bubble and how does it apply to modeling with sketchup?

          If you need a approximation of how tensile structures behave, that's the tool for you. And that's the original intent of it. I've used it specifically for such a task. I had to model up some 'umbrellas' as a roofing system for a street. We found a solution that didn't use glass, but transparent film which was pumped up by air. SSB saved me a whole lot of work for that.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            Tekkybot
            last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 15:20

            so its not for like modeling curves? what about tools on surface? and skin?

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              thomthom
              last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 15:28

              You can use SSB to create organic shapes. I've used it to create ponds some times. Drawing the outline of the pond, use those edges to SSB and apply a negative pressure.

              Tools on surface allows you to draw lines and shapes on curved surfaces, as oppose to normal SU tools which require a flat plane.

              Skin I haven't used. But I think it generates a surface out of a selection of edges and curves..?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                jeff hammond
                last edited by 31 Mar 2009, 16:25

                some examples of how i use skin and soap skin bubble.

                skin does basically what it sounds like it would do..

                say i'd like to put a surface to cover up this hole: [EDIT] i should've exaggerated this more in the example but those two sides aren't parallel.. they're closer together at the bottom than at the top.. otherwise, i'd just use push/pull here πŸ˜„

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/skin1.jpg

                i can manually connect the vertexes:

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/skin2.jpg

                or i can use skin.rb:

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/skin3.jpg

                after soften/smooth:

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/skin4.jpg

                i choose which method to use based on the amount of connections and/or complexity..

                for soap skins, i mainly use them as a visualization tool.. (and i don't think the author had this use in mind but it works for me)

                say i have a complex hole to fill:

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/soap1.jpg

                skin wouldn't work here and doing this manually would be a major undertaking so i use a soap skin:

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/soap2.jpg

                after some pressure adjustments and soften/smooth i have a very fast method for visualizing this shape:

                http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/soap3.jpg

                dotdotdot

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                  Tekkybot
                  last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 17:54

                  good post jeff πŸ‘

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                    Tekkybot
                    last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 17:56

                    i should rephrase what im asking... what are the STEPS needed to take to blow up a bubble when using soapskin and bubble? ? what exactly, do you DO? i notice that s/b has all these extra icons in the folder that don't appear in sketchup for me after checking the s/b menu. maybe this is why i cant get s/b to work?

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                      Gaieus
                      last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 18:02

                      You need to activate SSB at Preferences > Extensions (then maybe even the toolbar at View > Toolbars)

                      Gai...

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 18:20

                        And a little tut for use it πŸ˜‰

                        http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45676&stc=1&d=1224337660

                        Frenchy Pilou
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                          mfarooqi
                          last edited by 21 Nov 2011, 09:59

                          @unknownuser said:

                          And a little tut for use it πŸ˜‰

                          http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45676&stc=1&d=1224337660

                          Thank you MAN.. πŸ˜„

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