The "Duh!" thread (aka the Doh! thread)

david_h

@unknownuser said:

Ive had so many Duh Moments I don't know where to start . . .or rather D'oh!
I have still so many yet to experience I am sure. Maybe you can help me add to myD'uh Collection

I have never gotten into the OUtliner but the one thing I wish I knew how to do with it. . .if it can be done is in working with Nexted blocks and components in "Hide rest of Model" mode that you could have the group in which a component is nested visible but still have the rest of the model invisible? comprenez-vous? Or maybe there is a Ruby for this??? ***please oh please oh please!***Also. . .. we need a little smilie that says "D'UH! and D'OH!"

it would probably be better for your outer group to be a component instead of a group, with the other groups inside. that way it would work the way you want with all the internal groups visible when editing them through this outer component.

Thanks for the feedback, but I dont think that helps me, and I realize I probablyI didn't explain myself very well. I would want to able to keep the geometry of the component visible while I am working on an internal nested block/component but the main model is kept hidden? Better?

jeff hammond

@paulside said:

Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg !

i try to orbit everything on my computer after a long SU session.. web pages etc...

it's like jumping on a trampoline for a while.. once you get back on solid ground, it takes a few minutes to readjust..

NewOne

@ecuadorian said:

And I often find myself trying to "mirror" things with Ctrl+M, as in ArchiCAD, only to remember that I should have clicked on the mirror button of the SCF Powerbar instead.

What mirror button are you talking about? I olny use for mirroring Mirror_31.rb plugin. Is there something else? (and this one sometime crashes sketchup, i could not figure when yet)

Ecuadorian

http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=14770&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=powertoolbar

ely862me

i did find myself zoom ing out or orbit on a recorded desktop video taken while working in sketchup
a big d*oh when i discovered the scale tool(at the beginning i made a house and i tried to insert some components and my house was too small ..i abandoned the project )
another one when i discovered the smooth operation
another when i discovered the components(working just at one half of a car)
and the biggest when i discovered the render engines...

They are lot more wich i don t remember now!

Gaieus

@thomthom said:

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Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..?

Or with a girlfriend?

Chris Fullmer

@daniel said:

My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with version 7?).

Version 6 also let you cast shadows below the ground plane. At least the copy I'm running does?

Chris

Chris Fullmer

@unknownuser said:

Also. . .. we need a little smilie that says "D'UH! and D'OH!"

Well, its not a smily on the forum, but Jim did make a plugin:

http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/01/plugin-homer-button.html

EDIT: Oops, Paul already beat me to this last page....

Ecuadorian

Still happens to me a lot... I press Ctrl+Z in the middle of an operation and end up losing some work done.

And I often find myself trying to "mirror" things with Ctrl+M, as in ArchiCAD, only to remember that I should have clicked on the mirror button of the SCF Powerbar instead.

EDIT: Now I understand what thomthom was talking about... a REAL pen. A big Duh! for me.

xrok1

@unknownuser said:

@paulside said:

Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg !

Not being able to orbit in JPGS only illustrates their limitions. If we were an advanced society at all we would be able to this.

and why do image files need to be rectangular?? it would eliminate the need for transparency if images could be irregular shapes, maybe even having holes in them.

museummaker

Trying to orbit jpegs is just too funny. I do it all time.

I liken it to a nautical term "sea legs" if your on a boat too long you get used to moving with the rock of the ship and when you come aground you feel funy and walk like you had too much to drink. Trying to compensate for something that is not there.

When you try and orbit do you turn your head to the side and hope for it to work?

RayOchoa

@gaieus said:

@thomthom said:

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Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..?

Or with a girlfriend?

I never need an UNDO button

Gaieus

@rayochoa said:

I never need an UNDO button

At YOUR age I didn't need any either.

broomstick

@xrok1 said:

and why do image files need to be rectangular?? it would eliminate the need for transparency if images could be irregular shapes, maybe even having holes in them.

I don't understand this.. Can't you just apply an image to a face, and the edit that face?

thomthom

@gaieus said:

@thomthom said:

...
Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..?

Or with a girlfriend?

thomthom

@chris fullmer said:

@daniel said:

My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with version 7?).

Version 6 also let you cast shadows below the ground plane. At least the copy I'm running does?

Chris

Same here. Though, you do have the setting in the Shadows Window "On ground" which makes SU cast a shadow on the origin plane. But shadows still appear below. Could be a graphic card driver issue.

pilou

Duhduh by missing to read the Documentation

Gaieus

@thomthom said:

Same here. Though, you do have the setting in the Shadows Window "On ground" which makes SU cast a shadow on the origin plane. But shadows still appear below. Could be a graphic card driver issue.

Well, then I am now kind of confused. I definitely remember a certain issue when the modeller put the model (partly) under the ground plane and it was a long topic until we solved the problem that the shadows weren't cat properly.

If I have a look now, it's easy:

turn off shadows on ground
make a big,horizontal face below
turn on shadows on faces
Now why didn't this work back then? To tell the truth, I'm not experienced in this issue because I regularly build my structures above the ground level...

thomthom

I can't tell for sure either. I usually keep above ground as well. And I started using SU during version 6.4, so perhaps it was an issue earlier...

dale

My biggest Duh's always come when switching between Acad or Vectorworks to SketchUp (either direction) but mostly I am constantly looking for the tape measure in the cad programs.

Another Duh is finding that by holding the spacebar down you can control the zoom in so you don't zip past the object your zooming to.

However I do find myself in situations where I am trying to zoom into the back side of something I'm modeling trying to peer over it on the computer, as if I was looking over a fence.