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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      @rayochoa said:

      🀣 I never need an UNDO button πŸ˜† 😲

      At YOUR age I didn't need any either. πŸ˜’

      Gai...

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      • broomstickB Offline
        broomstick
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        @xrok1 said:

        and why do image files need to be rectangular?? it would eliminate the need for transparency if images could be irregular shapes, maybe even having holes in them. β˜€

        I don't understand this.. Can't you just apply an image to a face, and the edit that face?

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @gaieus said:

          @thomthom said:

          ...
          Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..? 😳

          Or with a girlfriend? πŸ˜’

          🀣

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            @chris fullmer said:

            @daniel said:

            My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with version 7?).

            Version 6 also let you cast shadows below the ground plane. At least the copy I'm running does?

            Chris

            Same here. Though, you do have the setting in the Shadows Window "On ground" which makes SU cast a shadow on the origin plane. But shadows still appear below. Could be a graphic card driver issue.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Duhduh by missing to read the Documentation πŸ˜’


              replace.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                @thomthom said:

                Same here. Though, you do have the setting in the Shadows Window "On ground" which makes SU cast a shadow on the origin plane. But shadows still appear below. Could be a graphic card driver issue.

                Well, then I am now kind of confused. I definitely remember a certain issue when the modeller put the model (partly) under the ground plane and it was a long topic until we solved the problem that the shadows weren't cat properly.

                If I have a look now, it's easy:

                • turn off shadows on ground
                • make a big,horizontal face below
                • turn on shadows on faces
                  Now why didn't this work back then? To tell the truth, I'm not experienced in this issue because I regularly build my structures above the ground level...

                Gai...

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  I can't tell for sure either. I usually keep above ground as well. And I started using SU during version 6.4, so perhaps it was an issue earlier...

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  • daleD Offline
                    dale
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                    My biggest Duh's always come when switching between Acad or Vectorworks to SketchUp (either direction) but mostly I am constantly looking for the tape measure in the cad programs.

                    Another Duh is finding that by holding the spacebar down you can control the zoom in so you don't zip past the object your zooming to.

                    However I do find myself in situations where I am trying to zoom into the back side of something I'm modeling trying to peer over it on the computer, as if I was looking over a fence.

                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Duhduh line πŸ’š
                      As a line can't be directly a component πŸ˜’
                      line.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        The funny thing is that it CAN be made a component. In fact, there are four ways to make a component (after you select the geometry):

                        1. with the make component button in the Principal toolbar;
                        2. from the Make component command from the Edit menu;
                        3. through a shortcut (the default is G);
                        4. finally from the context (right click) menu.
                          Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                        I would call it "major inconsistency"

                        Gai...

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                        • david_hD Offline
                          david_h
                          last edited by

                          That begs the larger question. Why would you want to make a single line a component? πŸ’š

                          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
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                            How about creating only "dummy" or "proxy" components?

                            The problem dosn't necessarily lie only here. The same goes with groups (only that there are only two ways of making them) and nowadays with SU autobreaking overlapping lines, you may wish to separate even single lines, too.

                            Also, any selection that only contains a single entity (not only a line) cannot be made a component (or group) this way. If you select a sphere (with a bounding box), there's a single "surface" selected only and you right click to turn it into a group/component in vain.

                            BUT if you select the sphere by triple clicking on it,it will autoselect and highlight the softened edges bounding the facets as well and there you go; you are now able to make a group/component. Note that the resulting group/component will be the same in either way you select them.

                            Gai...

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                            • david_hD Offline
                              david_h
                              last edited by

                              proxies occured to me right after I posted this so . . .I stand corrected sir. 😳

                              another D"UH moment for me.

                              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                              • N Offline
                                NewOne
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                That begs the larger question. Why would you want to make a single line a component? πŸ’š

                                I will answer you to this the best I can:
                                Let's say I want to render some big repetitive scene (50000 dummy dolls, let-s say). Sketchup doesn't support so many polygons. So I will make some 2d representation of them and the high-quality component will be replaced when exporting for render (i use maxwellrender and it supports proxy_objects) ... but SketchUp is still unresponsive πŸ˜• So what I choose? LINES !! YES πŸ˜„ if 50000 2d people are too many, 50000 lines are ok. And all that lines must be instances of the same component.
                                So... that's why you would make a line component.

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                                  I only use the right click πŸ˜‰
                                  That is the real big Duhduh of my day πŸ˜†

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                                    I only use the right click πŸ˜‰
                                    That is the real big Duhduh of my day πŸ˜†

                                    Ditto Duh! Never occurred to me the behaviour would be inconsistent depending on where in the UI you looked.

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      Well, gentlemen, this is the grand "Duh" topic!
                                      We are all "duh'hing" 🀣

                                      Gai...

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        I believe this is one of the most useful threads on this forum.

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • AnssiA Offline
                                          Anssi
                                          last edited by

                                          My biggest "Duh" was looking at a roof tutorial made by Alan Fraser back in v. 3. days, featuring very clever uses of inferencing. Even Jim Holman from the then @Last admitted he didn't know inferencing could be used like that.

                                          Anssi

                                          securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                          • E Offline
                                            Ecuadorian
                                            last edited by

                                            Any link to that tutorial? I still have lots of trouble with roofs... I often "cheat" using TIG's roof script, but sometimes you have to do it yourself.

                                            -Miguel Lescano
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