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    • L Offline
      lewiswadsworth
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      I dislike the Bonzai UI. It's not as bad as FormZ in UI, but it's not particularly intuitive. I haven't had that much time to play with it (between crashes), but there are simply too many tools doing too many very similar things. That breakdown of the selection tool (in every other modern modeler) into three different tools is really annoying. I really do think of Bonzai as a rebranded and repriced version of its ancestor...it's "FormZ Lite."

      I can make Rhino do what Bonzai does already (including the implicit history bit), and Rhino will do dimensions and in fact function as a full-out 2D CAD program as well as a NURBS modeler. Rhino doesn't have a UI any more fluid than Bonzai, but at least I know enough about it to teach it. And Rhino 5 is supposedly around the corner (relatively speaking), with realtime shadows and more parametrics. Who knows? Perhaps I already have my SketchUp killer, and have for the last 8 years.

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        @lewiswadsworth said:

        it's not what a program can do, it's what a person can comfortably do with the program

        Lewis, you never said a truer word πŸ‘

        Mike

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          thomthom
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          Anyone able to use it? To me to crashes every time after about 30 seconds.

          XP Pro 32bit, Quadro FX 3500, 4GB RAM

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            thomthom
            last edited by

            I experience crashing every time after about 30 seconds. I only have enough time to make a cube and draw a couple of lines on it.

            Windows XP Pro 32bit, Intel Core2 Duo, 4GB RAM, Quadro FX 3500. 169.96 drivers. I had 181.20, but they lead to terrible performance in SU and would crash when I started two SU instances.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              bonzai3d support
              last edited by

              Gentlemen,

              A number of you mention that you get "instant crashes" after launching bonzai3D. We have found one potential cause of this problem can be certain Windows Customization settings. If you are having this problem, right click on your desktop, select Properties: Appearance: Font Size, is this set to Normal? If not, does setting this to Normal fix the problem?

              If you still have trouble, if you go to Display Properties: Themes: and choose a standard theme (such as Windows XP, or Windows Classic) does this fix the problem?

              We have also found that it is possible to get a "trial copy expired" message to appear when you are not connected to the internet. We are working hard to get both of these issues (as well as a number of others) fixed as soon as possible.

              We also hope to add support for SketchUp 7 format files soon. (As you have discovered, use SKP 6 format until then.)

              Please let us know if you have any further questions, suggestions, or problems by emailing us at support@bonzai3d.com, or by posting on our forum: http://www.bonzai3d.com/beta_forum.html

              All the best,

              bonzai3d Support

              Explore * Design * Deliver
              http://www.bonzai3d.com
              Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                xrok1
                last edited by

                @mike lucey said:

                @lewiswadsworth said:

                it's not what a program can do, it's what a person can comfortably do with the program

                Lewis, you never said a truer word πŸ‘

                Mike

                Its a combination of both πŸ˜‰

                β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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                  bonzai3d support
                  last edited by

                  Gentlemen,

                  Glad that most of you are liking bonzai3d so far! We have been working hard, and we are pleased to announce that bonzai3d public beta update (build 7194) is now available. To access this, please click the link below:

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                  (bonzai3d.com)


                  This update fixes a few critical problems in the bonzai3d public beta build 7188. Future updates will be available through the "Check For Update" item in the Help menu.

                  Fixed issues include:

                  1. Crash on Windows with certain display font settings.
                  2. Crash at startup when an internet connection is not present.
                  3. Crash when attempting to view Introductory Videos when an internet connection is not present.
                  4. Video audio not stopping when the video window is closed.

                  As noted, this patch addresses these critical problems. We expect to release more patches frequently via the automatic update process to fix the rest of the issues that have been reported.

                  If you have not yet downloaded the beta version, you can download this new updated version by filling out this short form:

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                  (bonzai3d.com)

                  We are also working on a number of performance enhancements that will be implemented soon.

                  Thanks again for your reports. Let us know if you find anything further, and let there b3d!

                  support@bonzai3d.com

                  Explore * Design * Deliver
                  http://www.bonzai3d.com
                  Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
                    last edited by

                    Does anyone know what price will Bonzai3D be when launched? I have downloaded and had a little 'play' with it on the Mac .... and NO, its didn't crash πŸ˜„

                    I see no indication of price and was a bit disappointed as I thought this should be indicated.

                    Mike

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                      altap
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                      Hi!

                      the answer is maybe here

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                        solo
                        last edited by

                        hmmm, $500 is roughly the same price as SU pro.

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          fakircho
                          last edited by

                          Does it not strike anyone as strange that Bonzai 3D is version 7, they caught up with Sketchup pretty fast 🀣

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                            fakircho
                            last edited by

                            I am still having display issues on XP


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                              bonzai3d support
                              last edited by

                              Fakircho,

                              What video card and driver version are you using when you get these display issues?

                              support@bonzai3d.com

                              Explore * Design * Deliver
                              http://www.bonzai3d.com
                              Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                fakircho
                                last edited by

                                Nvidia 7900 GT driver 6.14.11.7516

                                I see that Nvidia have new driver posted a few days ago will give that a go.

                                UPDATE - driver 6.14.11.8122

                                Just updated to the latest driver and there was no improvement.

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                                  bonzai3d support
                                  last edited by

                                  Fakircho,

                                  Thanks for your testing and report. We have now been able to reproduce this, and we will get it corrected.

                                  Please let us know if you have any further questions or problems.

                                  support@bonzai3d.com

                                  Explore * Design * Deliver
                                  http://www.bonzai3d.com
                                  Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                    Phil Rader AIA
                                    last edited by

                                    Bonzai Beta crashed within 2 minutes of trial..on basic stuff. It's definitely "NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME". Ive been using sketchup since version 1 and to this day I have never lost more than a few minutes of work. It's the most stable and trustworthy program I have ever used. I know sketchup like the back of my hand. They are going to have to pry the mouse out of my hand when I stop breathing and most likely the application running at the time will be SU.

                                    http://www.philrader.com

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                                      xrok1
                                      last edited by

                                      well i figured out how to get my SK models into bonzai, upload them to 3dwarehouse first?

                                      β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                        fakircho
                                        last edited by

                                        "They are going to have to pry the mouse out of my hand when I stop breathing and most likely the application running at the time will be SU"

                                        I fear the same faith awaits me too 🀣

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                                          redranger4
                                          last edited by

                                          Mark,

                                          Per your question......"Bonzai3d will sell at the introductory price of US $499.00 at its expected release date in April."

                                          Hope that helps.

                                          Dan

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                            Mike Lucey
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi 'support@bonzai3d.com',

                                            There seems to be interest in Bonzai 3D. I have also download and had a peek BUT have absolutely no intention of further investigation until I know what the release cost is going to be! Can you please give us an indication? I have tried searching for this info but had no luck. In fact I have not even been able to locate a price on Form Z!

                                            Also, it would be nice if we could have a name here rather than 'support@bonzai3d.com'! We won't bite you as we are a friendly bunch of folk ..... but again the price indication may change that πŸ˜„

                                            Mike

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