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    Mike Lucey
    last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 11:23

    Does anyone know what price will Bonzai3D be when launched? I have downloaded and had a little 'play' with it on the Mac .... and NO, its didn't crash ๐Ÿ˜„

    I see no indication of price and was a bit disappointed as I thought this should be indicated.

    Mike

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      altap
      last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 12:18

      Hi!

      the answer is maybe here

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        solo
        last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 12:25

        hmmm, $500 is roughly the same price as SU pro.

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          fakircho
          last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 12:31

          Does it not strike anyone as strange that Bonzai 3D is version 7, they caught up with Sketchup pretty fast ๐Ÿคฃ

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            fakircho
            last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 12:37

            I am still having display issues on XP


            2.jpg

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              bonzai3d support
              last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 13:36

              Fakircho,

              What video card and driver version are you using when you get these display issues?

              support@bonzai3d.com

              Explore * Design * Deliver
              http://www.bonzai3d.com
              Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                fakircho
                last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 14:18

                Nvidia 7900 GT driver 6.14.11.7516

                I see that Nvidia have new driver posted a few days ago will give that a go.

                UPDATE - driver 6.14.11.8122

                Just updated to the latest driver and there was no improvement.

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                  bonzai3d support
                  last edited by 11 Feb 2009, 15:43

                  Fakircho,

                  Thanks for your testing and report. We have now been able to reproduce this, and we will get it corrected.

                  Please let us know if you have any further questions or problems.

                  support@bonzai3d.com

                  Explore * Design * Deliver
                  http://www.bonzai3d.com
                  Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                    Phil Rader AIA
                    last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 05:03

                    Bonzai Beta crashed within 2 minutes of trial..on basic stuff. It's definitely "NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME". Ive been using sketchup since version 1 and to this day I have never lost more than a few minutes of work. It's the most stable and trustworthy program I have ever used. I know sketchup like the back of my hand. They are going to have to pry the mouse out of my hand when I stop breathing and most likely the application running at the time will be SU.

                    http://www.philrader.com

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                      xrok1
                      last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 05:17

                      well i figured out how to get my SK models into bonzai, upload them to 3dwarehouse first?

                      โ€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.โ€

                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                        fakircho
                        last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 07:47

                        "They are going to have to pry the mouse out of my hand when I stop breathing and most likely the application running at the time will be SU"

                        I fear the same faith awaits me too ๐Ÿคฃ

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                          redranger4
                          last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 14:18

                          Mark,

                          Per your question......"Bonzai3d will sell at the introductory price of US $499.00 at its expected release date in April."

                          Hope that helps.

                          Dan

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                            Mike Lucey
                            last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 17:13

                            Hi 'support@bonzai3d.com',

                            There seems to be interest in Bonzai 3D. I have also download and had a peek BUT have absolutely no intention of further investigation until I know what the release cost is going to be! Can you please give us an indication? I have tried searching for this info but had no luck. In fact I have not even been able to locate a price on Form Z!

                            Also, it would be nice if we could have a name here rather than 'support@bonzai3d.com'! We won't bite you as we are a friendly bunch of folk ..... but again the price indication may change that ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Mike

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                              hebrides
                              last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 18:34

                              The performance/review of these 3d apps seems to model the gaming industry approach. If your engine's "game play" is poor, then make sure there is lots of eye candy.
                              Truespace is another good example. Building a model is hell, but while you are trying to figure out how to work it, you can play with the thousands of interchangable/snapping, floating, icons and toolbars in multi-colors, Now that's productive.

                              No chance getting this off the ground...even a free version.

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                                bonzai3d support
                                last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 19:16

                                xrok1,

                                No need to upload your SketchUp models to 3dWarehouse. Just save as SKP 6 (or earlier) and use the File Menu: Import command. If you want this file to be merged with an existing project, check the Add to Project Import Option (from the lower left corner of the import dialog).

                                Mike,

                                Dan posted cost information right above your post. Did you miss this? If you need any further pricing information, contact sales@bonzai3d.com for details.

                                Also, WE are "support@bonzai3d" because we are not just a single person, but a group of people who are representatives for bonzai3d. If you want a shorter name by which you may refer to us, you can just write "b3d" if you like.

                                Hebrides,

                                Did you actually give bonzai3d a try, and view the Introductory videos? Once you learn a few simple tricks, you should find that bonzai3d is a very powerful program that is also quite quick and easy to use.

                                If anyone has any further comments or questions, feel free to post here, or better yet, visit our forum: http://www.bonzai3d.com/beta_forum.html or send us an email. We are happy to hear your comments and answer your questions.

                                support@bonzai3d.com

                                Explore * Design * Deliver
                                http://www.bonzai3d.com
                                Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                  bonzai3d support
                                  last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 19:20

                                  Thomas,

                                  As "Big James" notes, there was a potential problem with bonzai3d on certain windows systems that we have identified and corrected. Here is the relevant portion of our post from the link that James provides:

                                  Re: Bonzai 3D First Impressions
                                  by bonzai3d support on Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:18 pm

                                  Gentlemen,

                                  Glad that most of you are liking bonzai3d so far! We have been working hard, and we are pleased to announce that bonzai3d public beta update (build 7194) is now available. To access this, please click the link below:

                                  favicon

                                  (bonzai3d.com)


                                  This update fixes a few critical problems in the bonzai3d public beta build 7188. Future updates will be available through the "Check For Update" item in the Help menu.

                                  Fixed issues include:

                                  1. Crash on Windows with certain display font settings.
                                  2. Crash at startup when an internet connection is not present.
                                  3. Crash when attempting to view Introductory Videos when an internet connection is not present.
                                  4. Video audio not stopping when the video window is closed.

                                  As noted, this patch addresses these critical problems. We expect to release more patches frequently via the automatic update process to fix the rest of the issues that have been reported.

                                  If you have not yet downloaded the beta version, you can download this new updated version by filling out this short form:

                                  favicon

                                  (bonzai3d.com)

                                  We are also working on a number of performance enhancements that will be implemented soon.

                                  Thanks again for your reports. Let us know if you find anything further, and let there b3d!

                                  support@bonzai3d.com

                                  Explore * Design * Deliver
                                  http://www.bonzai3d.com
                                  Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                    bonzai3d support
                                    last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 19:25

                                    Plot-Paris, Lewis, Phil, et al,

                                    We have found that with specific customizations on certain Windows based systems, it is possible to get frequent crashes with the first edition of bonzai3d Beta. We have identified the cause for this and released a correction for this.

                                    Please see the excerpt from another thread for details:


                                    Re: Bonzai 3D First Impressions
                                    by bonzai3d support on Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:18 pm

                                    Gentlemen,

                                    Glad that most of you are liking bonzai3d so far! We have been working hard, and we are pleased to announce that bonzai3d public beta update (build 7194) is now available. To access this, please click the link below:

                                    favicon

                                    (bonzai3d.com)


                                    This update fixes a few critical problems in the bonzai3d public beta build 7188. Future updates will be available through the "Check For Update" item in the Help menu.

                                    Fixed issues include:

                                    1. Crash on Windows with certain display font settings.
                                    2. Crash at startup when an internet connection is not present.
                                    3. Crash when attempting to view Introductory Videos when an internet connection is not present.
                                    4. Video audio not stopping when the video window is closed.

                                    As noted, this patch addresses these critical problems. We expect to release more patches frequently via the automatic update process to fix the rest of the issues that have been reported.

                                    If you have not yet downloaded the beta version, you can download this new updated version by filling out this short form:

                                    favicon

                                    (bonzai3d.com)

                                    We are also working on a number of performance enhancements that will be implemented soon.

                                    Thanks again for your reports. Let us know if you find anything further, and let there b3d!

                                    support@bonzai3d.com

                                    Explore * Design * Deliver
                                    http://www.bonzai3d.com
                                    Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                      Mike Lucey
                                      last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 21:28

                                      Fair enough. I did not realise the Dan / redranger4 was a Bonzai3D guy.

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                                        hebrides
                                        last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 21:28

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Did you actually give bonzai3d a try, and view the Introductory videos? Once you learn a few simple tricks, you should find that bonzai3d is a very powerful program that is also quite quick and easy to use.

                                        Yes I did. It downloaded and set up fine. I listened to the tutorial. As soon as I started to use the tools it crashed. Next time up it hung together ok. I was able to draw some basic shapes no trouble. The first really annoying thing for me was finding a way to select an object and rotate it. I like to pick components up as if to inspect them by hand. I was surprised that this simple action couldn't be achieved without instruction. Reaching to pick up and inspect a model is 3d 101. I could see right away that navigating complex models was not going to be a strength of bonzai.

                                        I have to think about what I have accomplished in SU and compare that to the learning curve required to get close using bonzai. I may have been a little harsh but until you guys start to work on your "game play" I will have very little interest.

                                        If you want to learn about "game play" then you will find the best example of this by watching a pro SU user build a model. Then watch again...and again. It really is poetry in motion.

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 23:08

                                          Is that normal the 30 days trial beta?

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