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    Edson
    last edited by 17 Sept 2008, 10:03

    the three pillars of modelling well (IMHO, of course):

    1. work ALWAYS on layer 0;
    2. GROUP whatever geometry you are creating (in case there should be more than one copy of it, make it a COMPONENT);
    3. place it on another LAYER whose name makes sense (essential for controlling the model's visualization).

    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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      HFM
      last edited by 17 Sept 2008, 17:45

      @edson said:

      the three pillars of modelling well (IMHO, of course):

      1. work ALWAYS on layer 0;
      2. GROUP whatever geometry you are creating (in case there should be more than one copy of it, make it a COMPONENT);
      3. place it on another LAYER whose name makes sense (essential for controlling the model's visualization).

      A big Amen to that, I always work this way 👍

      My tip:

      While selecting different kind of materials for your model to try out looks, don't forget to delete them afterward since SketchUp will remember every single material you've selected, clogging op your model's file size in the process.

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        Jean Lemire
        last edited by 18 Sept 2008, 14:46

        Hi Folks.

        My first tip: READ THE HELP.

        Just ideas.

        Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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          boofredlay
          last edited by 18 Sept 2008, 15:34

          But that is just one idea Jean 😄

          Use construction lines (with the tape measure tool) as much as is necessary.
          And I also agree with Alan, watch all the training videos... many times over.

          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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            Anssi
            last edited by 18 Sept 2008, 16:15

            Don't curse the SU inferencing, learn its quirks so it start working for you. One of the keys is to use Shift (locking) creatively with the inferences.

            Anssi

            securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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              Hazza
              last edited by 19 Sept 2008, 04:19

              @anssi said:

              Don't curse the SU inferencing, learn its quirks so it start working for you. One of the keys is to use Shift (locking) creatively with the inferences.

              I never fought it, I just needed practice to get it to do what I wanted. I knew the Shift key locked tools like the protractor but didn't know it locked inferencing too, thanks.

              @unknownuser said:

              And I also agree with Alan, watch all the training videos... many times over.

              That's one of the things I didn't do, I was too keen to just jump right in, I downloaded all of the SU5 videos, watched one or 2 and got bored. I enjoyed the doing and learning by mistakes more than just sitting passively watching someone else do it.

              See all of my SketchUp models here.

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                Alan Fraser
                last edited by 19 Sept 2008, 06:05

                No, no. You don't sit and watch...getting bored. You watch part way through, then say to yourself "Let's see if I understood that bit right." pause the video and try for yourself. Watch a bit more....pause it again....especially with the much longer V6 videos. Otherwise, by the time you reach the end, you've forgotten the stuff at the beginning.
                You know what they say about showing somebody something is better than telling them about it...but doing it for yourself is best of all.

                I'll bet a lot of people here learnt much of their expertise by reading questions from people that they didn't know the answer to right away. So they jumped right in...maybe refreshed their own memory by watching a video or reading the Help...and figured out the answer themselves.

                3D Figures
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                  Ross Macintosh
                  last edited by 19 Sept 2008, 09:21

                  Have Fun! Play!
                  It is human nature to jump right in, be ambitious, and attempt a "real project" when you are just getting your feet wet. That's what most of us did and its great so long as you can avoid frustrating yourself. Frustrations can zap your spirit. SketchUp should be a joy - and it can be.

                  Mix it up with some playing. Just fooling around and exploring tools and ideas is a fast-track to becoming more comfortable in SketchUp. It can be a remarkably intuitive program but you need to understand the flexibility it offers. You find that understanding through play and just trying different things.

                  Regards, Ross

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                    Gidon Yuval
                    last edited by 25 Sept 2008, 05:51

                    Don't try out tools and techniques that are new to you on a model that you are working on. Rather, open a new file and try out the tool or technique there. Once you feel comortable with it then, and only then, should you begin using the tool/technique on your models.
                    Nothing is more frustrating or agonising than messing up a model you need with unfammiliar tools to the extent that you have to start the whole thing over again.

                    before using "follow me" on something like this:
                    Brass Medallion.jpg
                    try it on some thing like this:
                    simple follow me.jpg
                    Before wraping textures on something like this:
                    Brown set.jpg
                    try different textures on something like this:
                    simple texture wrap.jpg
                    And like everybody said already: Have fun with it.

                    If you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there.

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                      Hazza
                      last edited by 29 Sept 2008, 03:48

                      Another tip:

                      If you are repeating the same action over and over again, someone has probably already created a Ruby plugin to do it automatically for you.

                      See all of my SketchUp models here.

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                        Alan Fraser
                        last edited by 29 Sept 2008, 08:31

                        What!...someone's written a Ruby that says "No, you stupid B####rd, move along the OTHER axis." 😉

                        3D Figures
                        Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
                        You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                          Hazza
                          last edited by 29 Sept 2008, 21:00

                          @alan fraser said:

                          What!...someone's written a Ruby that says "No, you stupid B####rd, move along the OTHER axis." 😉

                          I said ACTION, not mistake 😄

                          In a related beginners hint:
                          If you are having diffuculty getting SU to draw in the axis you want, change the camera angle. (eg, it's impossible to get SU to draw in the blue axis if you are looking from above.)

                          Related to the above:
                          It is easier to click, release, move the mouse and click again, than to click, drag and release. This is because you can middle click with ease using the first method but you will struggle holding down both using the second when you want to change the camera angle.

                          See all of my SketchUp models here.

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                            JuanV.Soler
                            last edited by 29 Sept 2008, 21:39

                            Click every now and then the Zoom Extents buttom.
                            you may get a surprise of something existing on the drawing board that you are not aware of.

                            ,))),

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                              Hazza
                              last edited by 29 Sept 2008, 23:46

                              Another beginners tip:

                              The behaviour of most tools can be altered by using different keys. SU will tell you what those keys are in the status bar along the bottom of the window, read them.

                              For example, when you select the "Tape measure" tool you can toggle guide points on and off using the "Ctrl" key.

                              http://u1.ipernity.com/8/96/63/3079663.e7a32afe.jpg

                              See all of my SketchUp models here.

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                                GreenToaster
                                last edited by 3 Oct 2008, 06:33

                                I create a small box so I can quickly reorient the screen cursor onto either of the three default planes - put the cursor on one of the faces of the box, hold down shift to lock the orientation - this works but I'm sure there's a shortcut but I've never discovered what it is.

                                Happy Sketching,

                                Brad
                                😄

                                If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                                  Edson
                                  last edited by 3 Oct 2008, 09:32

                                  @greentoaster said:

                                  I create a small box so I can quickly reorient the screen cursor onto either of the three default planes - put the cursor on one of the faces of the box, hold down shift to lock the orientation - this works but I'm sure there's a shortcut but I've never discovered what it is.
                                  😄

                                  this is a very good tip. i have seen people on videos do that on the axes but i can hardly reproduce that. doing what you suggest works 100% of the time.

                                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                    Roguer1
                                    last edited by 5 Oct 2008, 04:45

                                    If you struggle with placing things or moving lines etc, use the direction keys on your keyboard to lock to either: blue (up or down), red (right), green (left) and to use end points or lines in your model to move to. Take a look at: Window> Preferences> Shortcuts to get a better idea of these things.

                                    Find all my models on the [3D Warehouse](https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/user/d8bb4d13-3b01-44a0-a007-4a77a32b6433/Ben-B?tab)

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                                      SchreiberBike
                                      last edited by 13 Oct 2008, 00:08

                                      It's possible to select a single point with the move tool and move it.

                                      I wish I had learned that when I was a beginner.

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                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by 13 Oct 2008, 05:27

                                        @schreiberbike said:

                                        It's possible to select a single point with the move tool and move it.

                                        👍
                                        In addition to this: make sure nothing is (pre)selected when you do this - just click somewhere empty place to deselect anything that may have been selected before.

                                        Gai...

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                                          watkins
                                          last edited by 13 Oct 2008, 06:30

                                          Dear All,

                                          When trying to start a rectangle, line etc with the first click coincident with one of the axes, I often find that inferencing won't work (the cursor cannot find the axis). I get over this by double clicking on the axis with the tape measure tool, creating a construction line co-linear with the axis. Inferencing then works.

                                          A second tip concerns the scale tool. A little used option is entering dimensions rather than a scale factor. Draw a box 1000 mm on a side. Select all and then select the scale tool. Then enter 800mm,400mm,600mm in the VCB and the box will rescale exactly. This option is useful for turning circles/cylinders into ellipses/elliptical shapes with exact major and minor axes.

                                          Kind regards,
                                          Bob

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