Thanks for the help Dave. Profile updated!

I haven't gone thru thru update process in a while and noticed a new update for SU 2015. On a Mac when it asks to replace older version of SU 2015, will all the plugins still be there in the updated newer version?

Nice design. Can you tell me how you did the sepia style version, very nice look to that.

Discovered the trick... duplicate the list, delete first one and then the copy. Both color lists are gone.... finally.

I have the same problem with some of these old eazydraw color lists. They're not in the material folders and can't find em. Any ideas?

I've been using Sketchup 8 (Mac 10.6) since in came out but still had Sketchup 7 in my applications folder. I used AppCleaner to delete 7 and free up some space. Upon reopening 8 all the previous preferences, toolbar setup, etc. were gone. Anyone know why that happened?

Thanks for your help. I experimented a bit w what you suggested. I drew a rectangle, R click to make group, then R click to edit group. It draws a larger dotted line box around it. I then drew another box and the dotted line expanded to include it also. Why is it doing this? I think the Matrix has me (again!).

@gaieus said:

SU always treats loose geometry the way you describe. You can build any separated geometry right in place, just pay attention to some basic rules. If you start making a desk inside the room already (by the way, why not group the building first?) so any way, on a loose plane, I guess you start with say a rectangle. When you are done with the rectangle, double click on it > Make group and from then on, work on the group in edit mode. It will even take care of gluing it on the face (say the floor) you start it on, so you won't risk sinking it into the floor or moving above when moving it around the room but it will always be on the floor plane.

Flustered frustration = Flustration.

I have a love /hate w this program most of it centered around this sample scenario. For a current project, I mapped out a room and built a desk. The desk is placed against a wall. Later I wanted to move it over 10" or so. You make the selection, and then when you move it it, either moves parts of the wall or leaves facets of the desk behind that didn't get selected. I think this is a huge design flaw in how SU treats groups. If you draw a rectangle and extrude it SU should automatically treat this as a group. You may say build the desk part somewhere else, group it and move it into place. That's not always possible. Am I missing something here?

As a sidenote I recently used a trial version of Bonzai 3d which is a remarkable program. When you draw an object it treats it as one piece. This is a solid modeler so that has something to do with it. It just seems that once you draw something in SU, it's almost impossible to make changes or design alterations.