You could continue in this thread if it's still related to your kitchen project. Knowing several ways to do something is good because you may find cases where one way works and another doesn't or is much harder. Having a variety of options is always helpful.

Hi, Sonny: Quote: "..What i was reffering to was modeling the grill..than the sink or fridge or whatever else im putting in it.." Yes, that's what I thought you meant. Model main elements like the cooker, sink, base cabinets, wall cabinets etc. Then, arrange them. Also, consider what honolulu said. This is a good systematic way to see how things will assemble. And use the technique that Rich pointed out for getting quickly along. Happy modeling

Great. Rubies tend to be very specific to what is required, but it really is worthwhile getting familiar with the native tools, as it is surprising what they can accomplish. Good luck!