@Rich-O-Brien

Ah ok, yeah that's all I have too, is the Admin email. It bounces back now. I wish they had released the activation tool when they shut down for those of us that still use it.

Thank you

@Rich-O-Brien

Hi Rich,

Wondering if you could help me with Twilight Render. Researching who developed it your name kept popping up. Not sure if you have contact with the original developer or if you can point me in the right direction.

I've been using twilight for over 10 yrs super bummed they are gone. I own the licenses to Pro and all the plugins, but I had to do a new install on a new drive and I can't activate them now. I did get Twilight working on Sketchup 2025. I still have my old drive with everything unlocked, I've been attempting to reverse engineer my activation code. Do you have any thoughts on how I could unlock this on my new drive install?

Thank you

@fredo6

Hi Fredo,

I was never able to resolve this.. I've resorted to trying to figure out how I can upgrade my sketchup and retain use of the main plugin I use (Twilight Render 2). This company and website no longer exist.

I found a version of twilight for sketchup 2024 on the way back machine. I can get it installed and working but the licenses I purchased for the Pro features & add ons won't activate, assuming it's tied to my old install of windows.

Anyway you could help me? Do you have any ideas or a direction you could point me in to help me activate this?

Thank you

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Here is the plugin information from there. I'm not sure what is happening. I did a clean install and then used the sketchucation store to reinstall your plugins.

Fredo6 Plugins Information on 2025-06-10 08:26:28 -0700

• Platform: x64-mingw32 - Ruby: 2.5.5
• Sketchup: 20.0.363
• LibFredo6: v15.4a
• LibFredo6 Binary loaded
• Sketchucation ExtensionStore: 4.4.1
• SCFLicense: v6.4a - 74
• Fredo6 Plugins
• SCFLicense directory present

  Signature File: 2021-07-26 12:21:00 -0700
  Curviloft: 2022-09-28 16:26:30 -0700
  Curvizard: 2022-09-28 09:28:49 -0700
  FredoCorner: 2021-07-26 13:49:18 -0700
  FredoGhost: 2021-07-26 13:50:07 -0700
  FredoScale: 2025-06-07 12:05:50 -0700
  FredoSpline: 2021-07-26 13:50:45 -0700
  JointPushPull: 2022-11-27 21:10:39 -0800
  RoundCorner: 2025-06-05 11:57:20 -0700
  ThruPaint: 2025-06-05 10:19:08 -0700
  ToolsOnSurface: 2022-11-27 21:21:28 -0800

I was thinking that, but I'm having issues even with small files, and other fredo plugins. I Created a new 400kb file and attempted to use Fredo Spline, and it crashes almost immediately every time I try to use it.

Link to Video of the crashes:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2jmtibsbif2avvn8zp8gy/2025-06-09_20-44-37.mp4?rlkey=qdbmnj4trtr30skarvomc5dt9&dl=0

Link to the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/j7na2u0mtmhmr8f9qismx/Folder.skp?rlkey=iqxvlncvnx4taer7hgfih9x6l&dl=0

Last Error codes I got:
<module:SolidVolume>' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_fredotools/fredotools__solidvolume.rbe:31:in module:F6_FredoTools'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_fredotools/fredotools__solidvolume.rbe:23:in <main>' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:353:in eval'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:353:in require' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:353:in require_ruby'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1159:in block (2 levels) in load_full_rubies' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1156:in each'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1156:in block in load_full_rubies' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1154:in each'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1154:in load_full_rubies' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1081:in effective_load_part2'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1040:in effective_load' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_fredotools/__loader__fredotools.rbe:1:in <main>'
...
Error: #<FrozenError: can't modify frozen String>
C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/Tools/RubyStdLib/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:59:in require' C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/Tools/RubyStdLib/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:59:in require'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/su_dynamiccomponents/ruby/dcobservers.rbe:17:in <main>' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/su_dynamiccomponents/ruby/dcloader.rbe:16:in eval'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/su_dynamiccomponents/ruby/dcloader.rbe:16:in require' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/su_dynamiccomponents/ruby/dcloader.rbe:16:in <main>'
C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/Tools/extensions.rb:197:in eval' C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/Tools/extensions.rb:197:in require'
C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/Tools/extensions.rb:197:in load' C:/Users/trask/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/SketchUp/Plugins/su_dynamiccomponents.rb:49:in register_extension'
C:/Users/trask/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/SketchUp/Plugins/su_dynamiccomponents.rb:49:in `<top (required)>'

Here's a link to the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0xdfoi2n7tw8aqzg8p7j0/Bathroom-01.skp?rlkey=jmtzzwv7m0x6uooq9oczdo4pl&dl=0

• I just open the file, open thrupaint, select the brass material on the faucet or the material on the towel and attempt to paint the towel. That was causing me the most crashes. Also messing with the scale rotate feature after painting.

-I had issues with other large sketchup files crashing too, I don't think it was just this file.

I was able to test it with someone that has sketchup 2025 and thrupaint was working fine no crashes. I think it has something to do with 2020 version.
I was also noticing I can't always get the Thrupaint dialog window to load, I have to click around several times sometimes it will open sometimes it won't.

Thank you!

Ok I did a full uninstall, restart, right clicked run as admin, installed. Everything is still crashing. Here is a video while using Thrupaint.


2025-06-07_11-39-59.mp4

Hi Dave, I am very familiar with how to install programs as an administrator. No where did I say I'm running sketchup as an administrator.
I did a repair install as an administrator. I will say this again, this problem started before I changed or did any repair installs. It happened before and after.

This definitely has to do with Thrupaint or other fredo plugins to some degree. I did some tests where I tried to use it and it crashes sketchup every time within 1 to 2 mins. Whatever the recent updates were to the plugin changed something.

This is what it keeps doing to my tool bars. I was just using Thrupaint and it crashed. This is how my file opens after

It was already set to run as administrator, I had to give permission to repair. I was getting these errors and issues before doing that too.

No I was getting these errors and sketchup crashing just this week prior to doing anything. I haven't changed anything with my installs. When I opened sketchup this week it asked me to update fredo6 which I did. I was also having issues with thru paint showing up. So I uninstalled that and reinstalled. It then said my trial expired, so I purchased that. Still was getting these errors and sketchup crashing. Every so often it will crash and then when I reload sketchup all of your fredo toolbars are stacked in the middle of my screen not where I had them. I've had to put them back probably 16 times now. In an attempt to fix things, I did a "repair" install on sketchup, but that did not change anything.

Should I attempt a full uninstall reinstall? anything else I could try before that?

Thank you

Hello, I'm running sketchup 2020 and all of your plugins have recently started causing sketchup to crash all the time. I keep getting these errors. I have attempted reinstalling etc but no luck. any thoughts?

Error: #<FrozenError: can't modify frozen String>
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:299:in upcase' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:299:in store_value'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:226:in block in set' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:209:in each'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:209:in set' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:199:in []='
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6plugin.rbe:71:in <module:Traductor>' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6plugin.rbe:23:in <main>'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:353:in eval' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:353:in require'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:353:in require_ruby' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1159:in block (2 levels) in load_full_rubies'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1156:in each' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1156:in block in load_full_rubies'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1154:in each' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1154:in load_full_rubies'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1081:in effective_load_part2' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6core.rbe:1040:in effective_load'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/loader__libfredo6.rbe:1:in <main>' C:/Users/trask/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2020/SketchUp/Plugins/Fredo6_!LibFredo6.rb:47:in eval'
...
Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method +' for nil:NilClass> c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/lib6plugindialogs.rbe:156:in purge'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:470:in after_startup' c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:605:in detect_startup_of_sketchup'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6!libfredo6/top_libfredo6.rbe:600:in `block in detect_startup_of_sketchup'
c:/users/trask/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2020/sketchup/plugins/fredo6_!