sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    1. Home
    2. mr_tuel
    3. Posts
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info
    M
    Offline
    • Profile
    • Following 0
    • Followers 0
    • Topics 1
    • Posts 2
    • Groups 1

    Posts

    Recent Best Controversial
    • RE: Vray crashing SU when rendering landscape

      Thanks for the replies.

      There is displacement for alot of the materials, should I remove/reduce it? The 32 bit memory addressing issue makes sense, though I thought the limit was 4.3GB, since 2^32=~4.3 billion, which in bytes is ~4.3 GB. But Maybe that was only for the OS, and it limits programs to 2GB? In either case I know more about hardware than software anyway.

      The trees are pure geometry, not images or maps. Just edges and faces. That is one reason I thought I might be having problems, because they are geometrically complex. Sketchup doesn't appear to like complex geometry very much. I was able to render the scene using Twilight, but that had its own problems when the edge count later hit about 20 million.

      Would it do any good (for rendering purposes) to trim out unused layers and materials? I know I probably should anyway, but could that possibly be causing any issues?

      I want to point out that at no time am I using OS X. While I was using a Mac mostly for troubleshooting, Windows 7 x64 is the OS on both machines. Now if OS X might give me better results, I might have an excuse for a Mac Pro (or to convert my i7 rig into a Hackintosh).

      I don't find that Sketchup is all that ideal for full 3D landscapes that are to be ray-traced and rendered, but it's great for a lot of other modeling, especially conceptual modeling. However, it's the only 3D modeling program I know how to use at the moment, and I have projects with deadlines.

      Thanks in advance for any additional help!

      posted in V-Ray
      M
      mr_tuel
    • Vray crashing SU when rendering landscape

      First off, sorry for the long post. I'm new to the forum, not all that new to SU, but relatively new to Vray. I have read through the Vray manual, and played with it quite a bit. I Still don't understand all of the settings, but I understand how some of the maps work, etc. I am using the Vray trial (I keep re-installing) because I'm a broke college student.

      I use two computers to model. Primarily:

      Self Built
      Intel Core i7 920 (4 multi-threaded cores) overclocked to 3.4 GHz
      6GB RAM
      640 GB hard disk
      2x Nvidia GeForce9800GTX+ video cards
      Windows 7 x64 Home Premium installed
      Originally had SU 7.1.6087, then upgraded to 8.0.3117
      Vray 1.48.89

      When I render on this box, with a layer that has about 40 low poly 'cypress' shrubs, no problems. With 10 very high poly 'live oak' trees, and no other plants, it crashes with an error message about not being able to create an error report because my temp folder is out of memory (it's not). Right before this happens, the FrameBuffer loads. As the FrameBuffer loads, SU uses about 2GB memory, and CPU briefly hits 100%. Note that with both layers on, I get the same result.
      Scene with cypress layer on, and no other plants. Shrubs are a composite of 2D images. I did not make the shrubs myself. Water is the only reflective material. Rendered on desktop.

      I also use a MacBook Pro when I'm at school or otherwise away from my primary computer:

      Model# A1260
      Early 2008, right before the 'unibody' generation
      Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 at 2.4 GHz
      4GB (max supported) RAM
      500GB hard disk
      Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT video card
      Windows 7 X64 Ultimate installed
      Sketchup 7.1.6087
      Vray 1.48.89
      When I Render on the laptop, no probs with either the cypress by itself or the oak by itself. With both layers on, Vray and SU become unresponsive and stay that way for as long as 45 minutes (the longest I've waited). I can 'kill' the programs and reopen the files fine with no error messages.
      Scene with oak tree layer on, no other plants. Trees are 3D, and are a composite of components. I did not make the trees myself, but I did 'prune' them. Water is the only reflective material. Rendered on MacBook.

      Model Stats:

      13,382,520 edges, and I expect to wind up with another 10 million
      1,065,847 faces
      127,505 Component Instances
      97,897 groups
      62 component definitions
      10 layers
      64 materials, though several aren't used in the model

      I've been rendering at 800x600 to save time, I will render at higher res for presentation.

      I obviously have a couple of different problems. I have tried reinstalling Vray, reinstalling SU, and even upgrading SU, to no avail. I realize I could just as easily use 2D plants, but they don't have nearly the same visual effect. I would really prefer to use my desktop since it can process 4x the image in the same number of clock cycles, usually being about 65-70% faster than the MacBook. If nothing else I'm willing to not render on the MacBook at all. So, my main concern is to get my desktop computer to render my model.

      Is my model too complex? Is there a memory issue with the software? Can my problem be fixed with a setting(s) and which one(s)?
      Any tips or trick to make this model render? Do you need a copy if the model?

      Thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for your help!

      posted in V-Ray render plugins extensions
      M
      mr_tuel
    • 1 / 1