thanks greyhead for the input. i went ahead and redid the neck portion again. i didnt even think about bending the neck at the same angle as the headstock. i need to open my mind about sketchup and realize that anything can be done. i tend to rush and get a sloppy model and then just try to keep working with it when problems arise. i will post pics if i can get the volute just right. till then i will keep the back of the neck the same. thanks again.