[Plugin] Roof.rb

utiler

Hi TIG and others,
Just a few observations and possibly a feature to add.

The eaves fascia size offer users to set thickness of the roof however the result is a thickness measured vertically. [see attached]. Considering roof systems consist of known thickness, would it be possible to change [or add a feature] to offer the input of actual roof thickness?
Also, as with the gable roof function, is it possible to add a skillion [single pitch] roof option?
I would expect it to operate similar the the gable function; pick gable side first the single pitch side and execute.....

ar_max

thank you

TIG

Hi TIG and others,
Just a few observations and possibly a feature to add.

The eaves fascia size offer users to set thickness of the roof however the result is a thickness measured vertically. [see attached]. Considering roof systems consist of known thickness, would it be possible to change [or add a feature] to offer the input of actual roof thickness?

Also, as with the gable roof function, is it possible to add a skillion [single pitch] roof option?
I would expect it to operate similar the the gable function; pick gable side first the single pitch side and execute.....

Sorry to be so tardy in my reply
Most users will have a fascia height [vertical] in mind - although the roof structure [timbers] are a given thickness [though this will vary if it's been 'regularized' too], the fascia has to 'mask' the soffit material and also take into account the tiling laths and so on to kick up the bottom tile correctly. Also you might use differing depth timbers in differing areas BUT want a constant fascia to be seen.
If is not that difficult to sit down before jumping in and work out the likely fascia height from a guess of the roof's build up. You are usually using SUp to make a sketch model - if you were making it physically from card or drawing it with a pencil you'd think to yourself 'I want a 200mm deep fascia' and make/draw it at about that - an initial design should be about proportion and scale not real life wood sizes... If later on the detailed design comes up with 175mm timbers and a 65mm roof build up and a 15mm soffit it's not miles off and can be adjusted to suit ???
If you know the final build-ups then doing a quick bit of trig just the once will give the fascia's vertical height -
FasciaHeight = TotalRoofThickness **/** cos(RoofAngleInDegrees)
If you work in A:B pitch format then it's -
FasciaHeight = TotalRoofThickness ***** (SquareRoot**(**(A*A)+(B*B)**)**) **/** B

A 'mono-pitched' roof is so easy to make in SUp that I didn't add it... use the protractor tool to set pitch, guide-lines to offset, draw the profile and make the form including the top/bottom overhangs, and with pushpull as needed, including any verge overhangs - color to suit ?

I've no plans to do any work on **Roof** for a while as there are many things in front of it in the queue

utiler

Thanks TIG, can see you have been busy.....

Trig' is what I currently apply to work-out the roof profile vertically; or just set a fascia depth that is close. I just thought if it was a simple addition [obviously I don't speak the language] it would be a great alternative.....
No problem, I can live with it. Keep up your great work!

TIG

@utiler said:

Thanks TIG, can see you have been busy.....
Trig' is what I currently apply to work-out the roof profile vertically; or just set a fascia depth that is close. I just thought if it was a simple addition [obviously I don't speak the language] it would be a great alternative.....
No problem, I can live with it. Keep up your great work!

It might be easy enough to implement once I applied my self to it but it is one of my few encrypted tools too !
It might happen... but not one day soon...

utiler

@tig said:

@utiler said:

Thanks TIG, can see you have been busy.....
Trig' is what I currently apply to work-out the roof profile vertically; or just set a fascia depth that is close. I just thought if it was a simple addition [obviously I don't speak the language] it would be a great alternative.....
No problem, I can live with it. Keep up your great work!

It might be easy enough to implement once I applied my self to it but it is one of my few encrypted tools too !
It might happen... but not one day soon...

You're a generous man, TIG.

One day I hope to be able to buy all you ruby writers a beer!!!!

Logik

Thanks for this update mate.
Has made life a lot easier!!

guzaotfi

Hi man, i am brazilian, i need to link for download > roof plugin for sketchup plis! Tks!

TIG

Look for Roof on the Depot site at crai...
Tut and link here... http://vimeo.com/2254304

SelvinStar

Great work man, I am only a beginner and you have made my life a whole lot easier. Keep up the good work. Thanks Selvin

SketchUpNoobie

I dropped this in my plugin folder but its not showing up under "Plugins". Am I doing something wrong TIG?

Gus R

TIG,

Great plugin which I put through much use.

Recently however I went to use the roof plugin and noticed that it was missing from the plugins menu. Checked my plugin directory and it was in the correct location. Downloaded it again, just in case, and again placed it in the plugins directory but it still didn't show up in the plugins menu.

It finally showed up after I moved roof.rb into the tools menu which is something I've done in the past.

Only thing I've installed since I last used roof.rb has been "SDS2 Artisan". Probably conflict? Otherwise it works in the tools directory.

Thanks.

Update

I renamed artisan_loader.rb to artisan_loader.rbx and put roof.rb back in the plugins directory and it once again shows up.

Dave R

@unknownuser said:

I dropped this in my plugin folder but its not showing up under "Plugins". Am I doing something wrong TIG?

Did you see the post by Gus R? I did the same thing that he did with the Artisan loader file extension and it shows up. It does appear to be a conflict between the two plugins. I guess moving it to Tools isn't a big deal though.

TIG

@unknownuser said:

I dropped this in my plugin folder but its not showing up under "Plugins". Am I doing something wrong TIG?

I assume you mean you put the Roof.rb file into the Plugins folder ?
There are also 'help' files available...
Where there any error messages at startup...
There should be no conflicts with the other scripts...
I have artisan AND Roof running together without issues
It would be better if Roof.rb remained in the Plugins folder...
It will work inside the Tools folder but that is really for Google's own scripts...
You could try it in the Plugins but add a # to the start of its name [#Roof.rb] so that it loads before Artisan - then see if Artisan works too...

You can also test if it's loading [even if the menu item isn't there] by typing this into the Ruby Console...
Roof::hip
Working ? Messages ?
Please report back...

Dave R

TIG, it does load as the entry into the Console works. I changed the name to #Roof.rb and that works, too. The menu entry shows near the top of the Plugins menu instead of alphabetically.

TIG

@dave r said:

TIG, it does load as the entry into the Console works. I changed the name to #Roof.rb and that works, too. The menu entry shows near the top of the Plugins menu instead of alphabetically.

BUT does Artisan then work ?
It already works for me either way, so I can't see what Artisan might be doing to screw up 'Roof' loading properly and making its menu?
Here's my [unscrambled] 'current' version - please see if this version of 'Roof.rb' works ?? NOTE: this pre-v.4 one is for 'testing only'...*** EDIT: I have removed the temporary version - please get this one [i.e. the 4 of you who tried it and any v3 users!] http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=17156#p17156

Dave R

Oops. No, the toolbar for Artisan doesn't show up now nor does it appear in the menu.

The unscrambled version does work and Artisan seems to work with it, too.

SketchUpNoobie

Yep, the latest version works for me too and doesn't mess up Artisan. Thanks.

TIG

Here's a slightly improved version http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=17156#p17156
It avoids the clash with Artisan [which is quite frankly completely inexplicable!] and fixes one or two other internal glitches...
I have removed the test version from the recent post - please replace it with this linked one asap.....
ALL users should download it asap........

Rich O Brien

Why inexplicable?