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      dammerel
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      Jean , my extension menu only has sandbox tools
      Andrew

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        SchreiberBike
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        Susan's trick above works for me most of the time, but sometimes, it just won't for whatever reason. I have the "Set Center Point" ruby installed for those times and for other shapes.

        I don't see "Edit>Circle>Point at center" anywhere and I do have all the extensions turned on.

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          thomthom
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          No Point at center here either. SUP6.

          I use the endpoint inference trick, but when there's many object near or around it it often doesn't want to lock on the centerpoint. No way to further encourage it?

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            dammerel
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            so if you have a look at my file housing.skp,
            how would you align the dome with the housing ?

            Andrew

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              Andrew,

              I "revised" the whole thread here and I guess there is a misunderstanding. The "Point at centre" (or what) command is in the context menu (right click menu) that pops up when you select the circle with the right mouse button and not in the Edit menu.

              Well, I simly cannot imagine how you came up with such a disaligned dome shape!

              OK. I had a look and found three things:

              1. you cannot use the "Point at cener" command if the entity is not a circle/arc/polygon (whatever whose edges can be selected as a whole and not exploded into its segments). So I made a face for your dome and used the centerpoint.rb on that.

              2. The dome has a base of only a circle with 20 segments while the cylinder above has the default (24) segments. They will never be able to precisely and nicely aligned.

              3. Even the inside and outside facets of your middle ring were not aligned (they were kind of "twisted" out of alignment)

              I aligned the dome for you in three steps:

              • moved it by snapping my new guidepoint to the origin
              • rotated it along both the red and green axes to make it horizontal
              • aligned the corresponding endpoints of the cone and ring to show at the same direction (yet see point 2 above - it cannot be perfectly made)

              Here's your model in this state

              Gai...

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                sorgesu
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                I have always had all extensions enabled and I don't get "point at center" on a right click or on a hard select or anything. Never saw it? Are you sure you guys didn't load someone's ruby script?

                Susan Sorger
                Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  I have centerpint.rb but I did indeed disable it to check if its just another place it may reside.
                  Are you sure that you are only selecting the circle edge (and not the face as well)?

                  Gai...

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                    alpro
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                    I didn't load a ruby, I have center point in my edit menu when circle is highlighted and I also have center point in my context menu. SU6 Pro 6.0.1099

                    Mike

                    http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/PointAtCenter.jpg

                    http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/PointAtCenter.jpg

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                      Jean Lemire
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                      Hi Susan, hi folks.

                      SU 6 Pro Version 6.0.1099 for PC.

                      See the attached JPG files.

                      Just ideas.

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                        sorgesu
                        last edited by

                        Doh. I missed the bit about highlighting just the circumferenece. I have it now. Thanks. But generally I think it is faster to use the 'remind" inference. Only when I need to keep the centerpoint for some other use later, would I need the construction point.

                        Susan Sorger
                        Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                        Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                          dammerel
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                          thank Gaieus for the answer
                          Andrew

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                            Jim
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                            Just a thought... it's should be possible to make a ruby to always add a centerpoint when drawing a circle.

                            Hi

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                              humanticnc
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                              would be very useful

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                                ronski
                                last edited by

                                Hi, I have also had trouble finding circle centre.

                                What Susan didn't tell us was, "to use the pencil tool on the segments".

                                If you draw a circle then still using the pencil the Centre and segments highlight.

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                                  Chiefwoodworker
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                                  Susan is right. There is no "Point at center" on my SU 6 either. You guys must be drinking a Ruby drink.

                                  Joe....

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                                    Julius
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                                    i don't remember where i found it (i suppose somewhere in this forum), but this ruby is very useful: just select the circle and then click Plugins>Set Center Point.


                                    centerpoint.rb

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                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      And that's not only for circles but other 2D and 3D shapes, too!
                                      Etremely useful when you want to move and/or precisely align complex geometry.

                                      Gai...

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                                        Anssi
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                                        @chiefwoodworker said:

                                        Susan is right. There is no "Point at center" on my SU 6 either. You guys must be drinking a Ruby drink.

                                        Joe....

                                        No, Joe,

                                        We have only checked all the checkboxes in the Window>Preferences>Extensions dialog. Actually I don't remember if it is the Ruby Script Examples or Utilities Tools box that adds the Point At Center command.

                                        Anssi

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                                          Jim
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                                          It's important to understand the method used by the script for finding the centerpoint. It creates a BoundingBox around the selected entities, and the centerpoint is the center of the BoundingBox.

                                          For a circle, this centerpoint happens to be the centerpoint of the circle. This is not true for an arc, or other non-symmetrical 3d objects.


                                          centerpoint.jpg

                                          Hi

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                                            watkins
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                                            Dear All,

                                            The inferencing method to find the centre only works if the circle is unexploded, which is not always the case. Very often I need to find the centre of a circle that has somehow lost its circle entity status. Using weld.rb to rejoin all the segments doesn't work as the entity status changes from 'circle' to 'curve', and inferencing won't work. Usually, I draw two temporary diagonals and then place a construction point at the intersection.

                                            Here is a suggestion for a ruby:

                                            • call it curve_centre.rb,
                                            • select three (3) consecutive end-points (two adjoining line entities), and voila,
                                            • a construction point magically appears at the intersection of the mid-point normals.

                                            Has anyone come across such a ruby?

                                            Regards,
                                            Bob

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