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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Edson,

      Unfortunately I cannot see the details very well in your linked image either.
      When you tried to "hand stitch" the terrain, were you actually editing it?

      Another method (instead of deleting) to adjust your stamped terrain could be to turn on hidden geometry and try to select the problematic (slanting) edges - more exactly the ones closing them vertically - and move them to connect to the building. Maybe a little painstaking but can result in nicer terrain.

      Gai...

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        tomsdesk
        last edited by

        Edson,
        I'm having trouble seeing the problem too. Can you post a piece of the model we can take a look at?
        Best, Tom.

        http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
        2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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          dylan
          last edited by

          It is hard to see from this.
          Remember you can adjust the 'Offest' when you stamp. If you adjust it to 0 you may improve things.

          http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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          • EdsonE Offline
            Edson
            last edited by

            sorry for the bad image. i have just posted a much better one for you to look at:

            http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/clubhouse_det.jpg

            yes, gai, i was editing but perhaps not doing the right thing or not in the correct group.

            dylan, i never heard of being able to adjust the offset.

            thanks.

            edson

            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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            • EdsonE Offline
              Edson
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              It is hard to see from this.
              Remember you can adjust the 'Offest' when you stamp. If you adjust it to 0 you may improve things.

              dylan,

              i tried to stamp a simple rectangle to check if i could ajust the offset but could not find anywhere the box to enter the offset value. could please guide me through it?

              thanks.

              edson

              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                dylan
                last edited by

                It is in the VCB (bottom right corner).
                When you choose the face to stamp (bottom of the house) then add the desired offset distance in the vcb before choosing the terrain.

                http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Edson,

                  The same way you can adjust the size of the smoove tool for instance - just type the value and hit Enter.
                  A con of this way may be that it sets verticals all around the stamp and you may not want that.

                  Gai...

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                  • S Offline
                    sorgesu
                    last edited by

                    You cannot create an offset that is less than 1. I've tried over and over again. It won't allow an offset of 0 just as it won't let you inference the height of the stamped surface with any of the surrounding geometry. Really a problem.
                    I would suggest instead to drop in a flat surface and use intersect with selected and remove unwanted geometry after the intersect process.

                    Susan Sorger
                    Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                    Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                      dylan
                      last edited by

                      I can on my machine Susan, zero works perfectly. Not sure why ours differ.
                      Even if 0 did not work, you could always set 1mm which would not be any real difference.

                      http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        @sorgesu said:

                        I would suggest instead to drop in a flat surface and use intersect with selected and remove unwanted geometry after the intersect process.

                        susan, what exactly to you mean by drop in? without using the stamp tool?

                        edson

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Here's an example:


                          http://www.gaieus.hu/su/pics/terrainexample_thmb.jpg

                          and the skippy

                          Gai...

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                          • S Offline
                            sorgesu
                            last edited by

                            Funny, I've tried to use an offset of zero on countless different occasions and I couldn't. I just checked and I could.
                            On another thread someone asked about the maximume pixel size of an export and said he couldn't get it past 4000. I said it was 9999 and set out to prove it, and then I couldn't. I tried with 7000 and I couldn't. Tried it with 5000 and I couldn't. Then I tried it with a different model and I had no problem with 7000, didn't try 9999. I wonder what it is at work here, that sometimes an offset of zero works and others it does not?

                            Susan Sorger
                            Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                            Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              No, Susan, it's not offsetting here - I've never tried but it would make sense not to be able to do it because then why to at all? (like you cannot scale anything to 0 either). This is the stamp tool in the sandbox: you can adjust the steepness of the connecting sides from the terrain to the flat, stamped surface. By hitting 0 before stamping, you can make it as a pit or a box popping out of the TIN.

                              There are problems however:

                              1. Edson wanted to "dig" his house partly into the hill but obviously did not want a cliff on the other side. You cannot individually adjust the slopes.

                              2. If the sides of the pit I posted were really just verical, they should be coplanar as well and the hidden (actually smoothen) lines could be deleted but this is not the case.

                              So this needs some more examination (and from now on it should rather be in the Pro Forum but Edson posted some similar problem there, too...)


                              As for images, I once tried he extremes and challanged a 9999 pixel wide TIF. You can imagine! 😄
                              The biggest I needed was 3500 x 3500 pixels but I could not get it with textures and shadows on with AA so I had it with no shadows. The contractor was still happy (he'll eventually get 3DS Max renderings anyway...)

                              Gai...

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                                sorgesu
                                last edited by

                                That's what I'm saying Gaieus, I was never able to before. But today I could. How odd.

                                Susan Sorger
                                Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                                Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Maybe your computer was not hung over today...
                                  😄

                                  It is probably up to the hardware anyway but I don't need too big resolutions now so I don't care. The next will be some 1500x1050 pixel things but that's just a snap for today (I'll need all those section cuts and everything I don't want to bother with now at night).

                                  Gai...

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                                  • EdsonE Offline
                                    Edson
                                    last edited by

                                    gai, understood perfectly. thanks.

                                    however, my first question is still unanswered: how to fill those gaps? or how to add to a rolling surface?

                                    regards to all.

                                    edson

                                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      Edson,

                                      First of all I'd probably turn hidden geometry on, then depending on the nature of the TIN there (which cannot be seen in the pic) there are more possibilities. We'd probably need the skp file to say more (or to fix it).

                                      Gai...

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                                      • EdsonE Offline
                                        Edson
                                        last edited by

                                        @gaieus said:

                                        Edson,
                                        We'd probably need the skp file to say more (or to fix it).

                                        there you have it: http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/terreno_clubhouse.skp

                                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          Edson, I restitched the terrain (more or less as it could have been in the original). There are still some lines there - you can delete them if you wish (I did not want because you may still want them). The link to the model

                                          Is this what you wanted?

                                          Gai...

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                                          • EdsonE Offline
                                            Edson
                                            last edited by

                                            @gaieus said:

                                            Edson, I restitched the terrain. Is this what you wanted?

                                            yes! thank you very much.
                                            could you please tell me how you did it? like they say, better than giving the fish away is teaching how to get it from the sea.
                                            cheers.

                                            edson

                                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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