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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Here's an example:


      http://www.gaieus.hu/su/pics/terrainexample_thmb.jpg

      and the skippy

      Gai...

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      • S Offline
        sorgesu
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        Funny, I've tried to use an offset of zero on countless different occasions and I couldn't. I just checked and I could.
        On another thread someone asked about the maximume pixel size of an export and said he couldn't get it past 4000. I said it was 9999 and set out to prove it, and then I couldn't. I tried with 7000 and I couldn't. Tried it with 5000 and I couldn't. Then I tried it with a different model and I had no problem with 7000, didn't try 9999. I wonder what it is at work here, that sometimes an offset of zero works and others it does not?

        Susan Sorger
        Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
        Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          No, Susan, it's not offsetting here - I've never tried but it would make sense not to be able to do it because then why to at all? (like you cannot scale anything to 0 either). This is the stamp tool in the sandbox: you can adjust the steepness of the connecting sides from the terrain to the flat, stamped surface. By hitting 0 before stamping, you can make it as a pit or a box popping out of the TIN.

          There are problems however:

          1. Edson wanted to "dig" his house partly into the hill but obviously did not want a cliff on the other side. You cannot individually adjust the slopes.

          2. If the sides of the pit I posted were really just verical, they should be coplanar as well and the hidden (actually smoothen) lines could be deleted but this is not the case.

          So this needs some more examination (and from now on it should rather be in the Pro Forum but Edson posted some similar problem there, too...)


          As for images, I once tried he extremes and challanged a 9999 pixel wide TIF. You can imagine! πŸ˜„
          The biggest I needed was 3500 x 3500 pixels but I could not get it with textures and shadows on with AA so I had it with no shadows. The contractor was still happy (he'll eventually get 3DS Max renderings anyway...)

          Gai...

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          • S Offline
            sorgesu
            last edited by

            That's what I'm saying Gaieus, I was never able to before. But today I could. How odd.

            Susan Sorger
            Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
            Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Maybe your computer was not hung over today...
              πŸ˜„

              It is probably up to the hardware anyway but I don't need too big resolutions now so I don't care. The next will be some 1500x1050 pixel things but that's just a snap for today (I'll need all those section cuts and everything I don't want to bother with now at night).

              Gai...

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              • EdsonE Offline
                Edson
                last edited by

                gai, understood perfectly. thanks.

                however, my first question is still unanswered: how to fill those gaps? or how to add to a rolling surface?

                regards to all.

                edson

                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Edson,

                  First of all I'd probably turn hidden geometry on, then depending on the nature of the TIN there (which cannot be seen in the pic) there are more possibilities. We'd probably need the skp file to say more (or to fix it).

                  Gai...

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                  • EdsonE Offline
                    Edson
                    last edited by

                    @gaieus said:

                    Edson,
                    We'd probably need the skp file to say more (or to fix it).

                    there you have it: http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/terreno_clubhouse.skp

                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Edson, I restitched the terrain (more or less as it could have been in the original). There are still some lines there - you can delete them if you wish (I did not want because you may still want them). The link to the model

                      Is this what you wanted?

                      Gai...

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        @gaieus said:

                        Edson, I restitched the terrain. Is this what you wanted?

                        yes! thank you very much.
                        could you please tell me how you did it? like they say, better than giving the fish away is teaching how to get it from the sea.
                        cheers.

                        edson

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Simply hand-stitched. Tried to follow the dotted (smoothed) lines where possible to regain the original terrain - at some places I had to "improvise" though.

                          Gai...

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                          • EdsonE Offline
                            Edson
                            last edited by

                            this thread was very, very helpful. you guys opened my eyes to a number of features that i was not aware of. i had a look at the manual just to make sure i got the whole picture. thank you all.

                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                            • S Offline
                              sorgesu
                              last edited by

                              okay, I found out what is happening with the zero offset. When I type in the zero, SketchUp appears to accept it, except if you zoom in on the selected offset, it is clear that it is not behaving as if it were zero. In fact it appears to create an offset of 1 despite the fact that the VCB shows 0.

                              If I type in .001 that is accepted and the offset might as well be zero.
                              Dylan, I wonder if you could test this on your machine. Is that the result that you were really getting?

                              Susan Sorger
                              Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                              Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                              • D Offline
                                dylan
                                last edited by

                                Hi Susan,

                                Well I tried this test a little more closely and you are correct, you cannot use 0.
                                If I use zero, it does work, but to a default of 25mm. On a large drawing you probably would not see this but close up you can.

                                If I type in 0.001 as you suggested then it will not work, but 0.1 does.
                                So if I wish to have a zero offset in the future, then 0.1 it will be - a tenth of a millimetre is good enough for me
                                πŸ˜„

                                http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                                • EdsonE Offline
                                  Edson
                                  last edited by

                                  i had the same problem. while trying the zero offset, it kept returning to the default value. as soon as i put something more than zero it worked.

                                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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