Mac OS X Leopard & SketchUp!
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That is such a good deal for 5 users.
Im still hoping to get a mac myself when I can find a couple of thousand pounds spare.
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@unknownuser said:
That is such a good deal for 5 users.
Im still hoping to get a mac myself when I can find a couple of thousand pounds spare.Dylan,
Apple are doing finance! Buy on the drip is one
option! You'll make the interest in productivity
increase over 24 months
Mike
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@mike lucey said:
Any suggestions Tim?
Right now I'd say that if you depend upon SU for work then I wouldn't install Leopard yet. Or at least, not on your main/only disk. IF you have a secondary disc you can use and boot form it to test then you might find that this is only a problem on the MacBook models - after all they do have a rather low-power graphics chip, different from all the other models,
Since you really ought to have a secondary disk for TimeMachine usage anyway, this should be practical for you to try.
Aside from this problem my MacBook is quite happy. I love the new coverflow finder and when SU can make good use of it (an improvement in the 'custom icon' option should do it) it will be very useful. For example, I have large collection of pdf article from FineWoodWorking and used to have to rely on the filenames. Now with CoverFlow you can flick through them to find the wanted one. I see it as a way to return to the 'muscle memory' idea that we originally thought the 'messy desk' idiom would help back in the old days of graphical UIs. It's amazing how fast the thumbnails generate and how quickly you can open the doc to read.
Not so impressed by the translucent menubar though
Then again, never was impressed with the menubar idea anyway. Had lots of animated discussions with Jef Raskin about that over the years! -
Thanks Tim, I think the idea of booting from a second disk
is the way to go for the time being.Mike
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Tim - we've tested Leopard on earlier versions and noticed there are a couple of OpenGL issues fxed, one on the video driver on your MacBook & Mac Mini, another on the 24" iMac. We haven't observed beach balling on SketchUp in the situations you mentioned, so I'll get on that today and see if we can recreate what you're seeing. Do you have 1 GB memory or 2? I'd also launch /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app and take a look at your system's performance and memory usage.
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Oh, one other thing: let the indexing run and complete before making any conclusions. Especially on a MacBook. There have been some reports of this, so check it again today assuming you left the machine on.
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Sorry, I had to wait until I knew this posted before saying more:
We're working on a fix for this, but basically Google Earth -> Get Current View and Google Earth -> Place Model (PPC only) are having issues. I'm also noticing slowness (give it 2 minutes) on bringing up "Share Model" that may be Safari 3.0.4 related. We'll hunt that one down, but please share anything you notice. Thanks.
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Hi All,
Please, anything you find with Leopard start a new thread. I'd hate for issues to get buried.
Thank you.
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well Brad, we can alway's bump the post or make it sticky for a while..
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@bjanzen said:
Oh, one other thing: let the indexing run and complete before making any conclusions. Especially on a MacBook.
Yah, this was well after all indexing had finished, and not during a TimeMachine run either.
I did some more tests with very simple models (like a single square) and the delay was much much less though still much longer than one would expect. I also did some extra post-install cleanups like erasing old caches just in case. No effect on my current model which is not exactly extravagantly large at only 7000 lines 3000 faces in 56 component instances. Simply click-selecting works just fine for individual components/groups/faces etc as does shift-select.
Activity monitor showed SU never exceeding 0.8% cpu whilst taking it's time (about 10 sec) to do the drag-select, with a period when 'spindump' took 15%.
My MacBook is a 1.83GHz /2Gb / GMA950-64Mb /60Gb model. Mostly the SU performance is really pretty amazing for such a cheap machine. Bit different to when I was writing my own CAD systems in '81 on a NatSemi 16032 based box I built myself! How time flies...
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Dylan was right! I got the delivery on Tuesday evening and have now loaded Leopard.
I'm now exploring all the new features and particularly like Time Machine.The new Dock is also well thought out and a
great time saver. I'm having difficulty with
a couple of pre-installed applications. Afloat, a program that I was using quite a lot is not running the way it used to but I'll keeping playing with it, hopefully it will work out.I haven't noticed any problems with SketchUp as
yet so all would appear to be well enough, fingers cross.Just hear that Apple have sold over 2,000,000 copies of Leopard in the first two days!!! Now let me see, where is that calculator? Ah yes, $258,000,000 .... I imagine Apple shareholders will be happy
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Jody posted this link over the Groups:
http://sketchup.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=79634Just FYI (I'm a WinXP user)
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Great news Mike!!
Have fun playing
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We know you're an XP user, Gaieus, because I posted that link 5 posts ahead of yours... must... tune.... out.... crazy.... Mac.... users....
. But thanks for thinking of us, and thanks for all your work in the community of SketchUp!Barry
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Ah, Barry, surely I'm not reading all the way this topic every time (Mike is in here anyway if you guys are planning to do some naughty things) so I was just glad to see this link and paste it in here...
Sigh... I was too late, man...
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mike,
regarding new releases of Mac OS i prefer to act like i do with recently opened restaurants: let them setlle down and iron out all the wrinkles. after all the app companies have upgraded their apps to the new system then i jump in. i have no beta tester adventurousness in this regard.
i have had enough with little conflicts and incompatibilities during my time: my entry in the mac world was under system 7!
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@tim said:
Also had long periods of beachball after rotating a fairly simple component (a cupboard door) - not a problem in the actual rotation which was perfectly smooth, but after finishing the operation.
I'm using a new MacBook, and as Tim said, everything seems to work except for the beachballing after selection/rotation. I tried turning off hardware acceleration, and from what I can tell that helped - selection and rotation works without beachballing, and everything else runs as smooth as one could expect without hardware acceleration.
// Olle
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Hmm, yes, turning off hardware acceleration certainly avoids the massive delay when drag-selecting but it noticeably slows down almost everything else for me!
But it certainly provides some useful forensic info to help the guys find out where the real problem lies.
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Well so far so good. Overall I think its an improvement.
The new Dock features are proving a great time saver.However I could not get Afloat to work. I contacted the
author and he tell me that a Leopard version should be
available in January. If anyone knows of a similar Mac
program I would appreciate advise.Mike
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Guys I have split the selection bug off this thread and moved to the Bug Reports subfolder for better attention by the Google Team (and as was requested by Barry or Brad somewhere above). Here is the link to the new thread.
I hope you don't mind...
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