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    • N Offline
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      "Mac OS X® 10.4.1 or higher. Mac OS X® 10.5, also known as Leopard, isn't supported at this time."

      So.... when? 8O

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      • bradB Offline
        brad
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        Hi All,

        Here is the latest information on Leopard

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        Now that we have the official release we'll continue to do more testing. I don't have a time table of when Leopard will be an officially supported OS. If you are running Leopard and SketchUp consider yourself to be on the bleeding edge.

        If you find any problems please post the problem and/or send me a private message and send me an email at bradaskinsATgmail.com

        Thank you.

        Brad
        SketchUp QA

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        • N Offline
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          Thank you Brad for your answer but impossible to find the translation of:" to be on the bleeding edge" 😒

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            dylan
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            Not heard the term bleeding edge before until now - You learn something new everyday.

            http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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              jeff jacobs
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              @unknownuser said:

              Not heard the term bleeding edge before until now - You learn something new everyday.

              Don't know "bleeding edge"? Where the "bloody hell" have you been? :egrin:

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              • N Offline
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                I'm French and know SU better than English language

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                • T Offline
                  tim
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                  It works mostly on my MacBook with Leopard.
                  Good news - the selection rectangles appear with the newer OpenGL version/drivers/ Bad news - it makes SU sit there for a long while spinning the beachball before finally returning control to you. Usually the resulting selection is what I'd expect but not every time. I see no difference whether using 'Fast Feedback' or not.

                  Also had long periods of beachball after rotating a fairly simple component (a cupboard door) - not a problem in the actual rotation which was perfectly smooth, but after finishing the operation.

                  And similar after placing a people component in my model.

                  And once a simple save failed, telling me that it was impossible to save the file. Worked immediately afterwards.

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
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                    Thanks Guys, so it looks like its not advisable quite yet.

                    I'm now wondering if I should install when I get it on Tuesday
                    next. Any suggestions Tim?

                    Mike

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                      dylan
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                      @mike lucey said:

                      Thanks Guys, so it looks like its not advisable quite yet.

                      I'm now wondering if I should install when I get it on Tuesday
                      next. Any suggestions Tim?

                      Mike

                      Me personally I would probably not be able to wait and would install it 😄
                      Have you still got a pc with SU on so you could carry on working with SU if required.
                      I guess it is all down to how much you rely on SU.

                      Why not wait to hear reports of others trying first. Im sure within a few days of release the forums will start receiving reports.

                      http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
                        Mike Lucey
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                        Dylan, I ordered a Family Pack (5 users) at €199 against a single
                        user license for €129. So I'll load it onto the wife's Mac and
                        see how SU works on that.

                        I thought the Family Pack great value at €199 😉

                        Mike

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                          dylan
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                          That is such a good deal for 5 users.
                          Im still hoping to get a mac myself when I can find a couple of thousand pounds spare. 😄

                          http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            That is such a good deal for 5 users.
                            Im still hoping to get a mac myself when I can find a couple of thousand pounds spare. 😄

                            Dylan,

                            Apple are doing finance! Buy on the drip is one
                            option! You'll make the interest in productivity
                            increase over 24 months 😉

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                              tim
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                              @mike lucey said:

                              Any suggestions Tim?

                              Right now I'd say that if you depend upon SU for work then I wouldn't install Leopard yet. Or at least, not on your main/only disk. IF you have a secondary disc you can use and boot form it to test then you might find that this is only a problem on the MacBook models - after all they do have a rather low-power graphics chip, different from all the other models,

                              Since you really ought to have a secondary disk for TimeMachine usage anyway, this should be practical for you to try.

                              Aside from this problem my MacBook is quite happy. I love the new coverflow finder and when SU can make good use of it (an improvement in the 'custom icon' option should do it) it will be very useful. For example, I have large collection of pdf article from FineWoodWorking and used to have to rely on the filenames. Now with CoverFlow you can flick through them to find the wanted one. I see it as a way to return to the 'muscle memory' idea that we originally thought the 'messy desk' idiom would help back in the old days of graphical UIs. It's amazing how fast the thumbnails generate and how quickly you can open the doc to read.

                              Not so impressed by the translucent menubar though 😞 Then again, never was impressed with the menubar idea anyway. Had lots of animated discussions with Jef Raskin about that over the years!

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                              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                Mike Lucey
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                                Thanks Tim, I think the idea of booting from a second disk
                                is the way to go for the time being.

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                                • B Offline
                                  bjanzen
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                                  Tim - we've tested Leopard on earlier versions and noticed there are a couple of OpenGL issues fxed, one on the video driver on your MacBook & Mac Mini, another on the 24" iMac. We haven't observed beach balling on SketchUp in the situations you mentioned, so I'll get on that today and see if we can recreate what you're seeing. Do you have 1 GB memory or 2? I'd also launch /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app and take a look at your system's performance and memory usage.

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                                    bjanzen
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                                    Oh, one other thing: let the indexing run and complete before making any conclusions. Especially on a MacBook. There have been some reports of this, so check it again today assuming you left the machine on.

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                                      bjanzen
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                                      Sorry, I had to wait until I knew this posted before saying more:

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                                      We're working on a fix for this, but basically Google Earth -> Get Current View and Google Earth -> Place Model (PPC only) are having issues. I'm also noticing slowness (give it 2 minutes) on bringing up "Share Model" that may be Safari 3.0.4 related. We'll hunt that one down, but please share anything you notice. Thanks.

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                                      • bradB Offline
                                        brad
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                                        Hi All,

                                        Please, anything you find with Leopard start a new thread. I'd hate for issues to get buried.

                                        Thank you.

                                        Brad
                                        SketchUp QA

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                                          alexander
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                                          well Brad, we can alway's bump the post or make it sticky for a while..

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                                          • T Offline
                                            tim
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                                            @bjanzen said:

                                            Oh, one other thing: let the indexing run and complete before making any conclusions. Especially on a MacBook.

                                            Yah, this was well after all indexing had finished, and not during a TimeMachine run either.

                                            I did some more tests with very simple models (like a single square) and the delay was much much less though still much longer than one would expect. I also did some extra post-install cleanups like erasing old caches just in case. No effect on my current model which is not exactly extravagantly large at only 7000 lines 3000 faces in 56 component instances. Simply click-selecting works just fine for individual components/groups/faces etc as does shift-select.

                                            Activity monitor showed SU never exceeding 0.8% cpu whilst taking it's time (about 10 sec) to do the drag-select, with a period when 'spindump' took 15%.

                                            My MacBook is a 1.83GHz /2Gb / GMA950-64Mb /60Gb model. Mostly the SU performance is really pretty amazing for such a cheap machine. Bit different to when I was writing my own CAD systems in '81 on a NatSemi 16032 based box I built myself! How time flies...

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