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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      My RAL folder has a RAL.txt file that lists all of te files with their color values.
      Changing that does nothing.
      There are also many individual skms - like RAL0001.skm.
      These are really zips, each containing various files... but one particular xml determines what that skim will displa as its 'name' in the Materials Browser ???
      If I edit that value then the name changes - but editing anything else just doesn't work...
      πŸ˜• πŸ˜•
      EDIT:
      Your ral_farben.skm doesn't exist ?
      Back tracked and found it - reloaded - it works as you you say BUT why does my version have so many bits ?
      Got it - after you first run the material skm it makes all of the individual skms - I must have got the version from somewhere with those made...

      So to recap - if you have loads of separate skms remove them, rename the entries in the 'first' skm file [edit with Notepad etc] and then run it and all should be sorted ? Phew ! πŸ˜’
      EDIT/EDIT: see next post for the English RAL version... β˜€

      TIG

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        OK - so to address my slowness here's the English version of the RAL skms.
        Put the one RAL.skm and the RAL folder of skms into your Materials Folder - to change the names to suit your locale remove the RAL folder and change the names inside the RAL.skm file. When you next open SUp a new RAL folder will compile with the renamed skms inside...RAL.zip
        β˜€

        TIG

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        • utilerU Offline
          utiler
          last edited by

          @tig said:

          OK - so to address my slowness here's the English version of the RAL skms.
          Put the one RAL.skm and the RAL folder of skms into your Materials Folder - to change the names to suit your locale remove the RAL folder and change the names inside the RAL.skm file. When you next open SUp a new RAL folder will compile with the renamed skms inside...[attachment=0:yafmopu0]<!-- ia0 -->RAL.zip<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:yafmopu0]
          β˜€

          You're a legend, TIG!!!!! πŸŽ‰

          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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          • D Offline
            d12dozr
            last edited by

            Thanks, TIG!

            Any idea why I still have a RAL-Farben folder (unconverted names) in my Materials browser as well as TIG's converted RAL folder? I have deleted all but the converted RAL skm from my Materials folder and restarted Sketchup πŸ˜•

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              @d12dozr said:

              Thanks, TIG!
              Any idea why I still have a RAL-Farben folder (unconverted names) in my Materials browser as well as TIG's converted RAL folder? I have deleted all but the converted RAL skm from my Materials folder and restarted Sketchup πŸ˜•

              You must still have the folder or a RAL-Farben.skm ? Move it/them out of ../Materials/...

              TIG

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              • D Offline
                d12dozr
                last edited by

                I believe I deleted all but the one RAL skm. Here is a screen grab of my Materials folder and Sketchup Materials palette...its not a big deal, just strange.


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                • H Offline
                  hebelup
                  last edited by

                  Thanks this colors are very good...

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                  • J Offline
                    jarrielsucio
                    last edited by

                    Thanks Burkhard!! very useful

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                      3rdEye
                      last edited by

                      Hi there,

                      can anyone please tell how to add a new RAL Color to the palette?
                      What do the numbers mean that are put behind the Name of the color in the lines in RAL-Colors.skm?

                      thx, moon

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        I expect the numbers are basically a catalog or identifier number used by RAL. See here for the list. Also here.

                        You could edit an existing one in a model, change its name to the new name and click on Create Material. Then open the secondary materials pane set it to RAL. The top pane should be set to In Model Drag the new color from the In Model to the RAL library.

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                        • 3 Offline
                          3rdEye
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for the fast reply, Dave...

                          I compared the number inside the "RAL Farben.skm" to the numbers stated on the first link you sent to me (very cool list πŸ˜‰), but they are different.
                          I am sure the number describes the colors for sketchup somehow. Would be interesting to know how to get to this number.
                          For the second part of your post: Thanks, yes i know how to do it this way, the the is a new color skm in the subfolder, but its not inside the list.
                          If we knew the way to get to the numbers inside the main skm file, we could share on any completions of the list very easy, and after a complete new installation you wil not have to define the colors again.

                          all the best,
                          3rdEye

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            A RAL color code [e.g. '1000'] is part of the RAL referencing system and bears no relationship to the SKM material's RGB colors.
                            So we find that: RAL 1000 RGB=190,189,127 Name= GrΓΌnbeige [EN=Green beige]

                            If the SKM is named 'RAL1000' it doesn't affect the RGB value - you could rename it to say 'Green beige' and it'd still have the same RGB values...

                            My RAL SKMfiles in http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=227982#p227982 is all you need... why the old 'Farben' version?

                            When you add a new SKM into the ../Materials/../RAL folder [e.g. you make a clone of a RAL material in your model and then save it externally to that RAL folder] then the available SKM files in the Material Browser is updated by the system to include that file. The only way to distribute the SKMs is to zip them up...

                            TIG

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              FWIW, I compared the list of SKMs in the RAL folder with a list of RAL colors with RGB values I downloaded somewhere. I found 9 colors not listed in the SKMs. They'd be easy enough to add and if I get time, I will make them.

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                +FWIW those missing 9 are not commonly used by powder-coating companies etc anyway... πŸ˜’

                                TIG

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  Then perhaps this was a waste of my five minutes. πŸ˜‰
                                  RAL Colors ADDED.png


                                  RAL Colors ADDED.skp

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Waste not want not. πŸ˜‰

                                    I've extracted these into SKM files...
                                    Here's a zip file with the various SKM files RAL+.zip
                                    [which I've renamed slightly into 'anglicized' versions [Telegrau>>>Telegray] and to match other RAL SKM naming conventions].
                                    Extract them and place these 9 SKM files into the same folder as the other RAL SKM files [i.e. inside ../Materials/.. named RAL ?]

                                    TIG

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for that TIG. I thought about using Gray instead of Grau but the rest of the list I downloaded was in English with the word Gray used on other names. I decided to stick with what I read.

                                      Also thanks for zipping up the SKMs. I figured for only 9 colors, they'd be easy enough to drag into the RAL library right from SketchUp but your way makes it easier yet.

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                                        3rdEye
                                        last edited by

                                        Yep, thanks TIG,

                                        i`ll try your Version despite IΒ΄m Austrian and like somehow the german version... πŸ˜†

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @3rdeye said:

                                          Yep, thanks TIG,
                                          I`ll try your Version, despite IΒ΄m Austrian and like somehow the German version... πŸ˜†

                                          3rdEye
                                          You can always load the extra 9 skm files, rename them back with 'grau' etc and they re-export back as new skm files... them remove die Englisch diejenigen...
                                          πŸ˜‰

                                          TIG

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                                            neilmpenny
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                                            @burkhard said:

                                            unpack and copy into the material folder. All are .skm files
                                            credits to Holger K

                                            Burkhard

                                            Thank you very much for this, I am extremely grateful. You have helped me no end.

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