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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
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      @ntxdave said:

      Just curious, what do you do when you go to the next version (I.e. 2022)?

      I copy the Components, Materials, Styles, and Templates folders all at once to the equivalent location for the new version. I do the LayOut folders for scrapbooks and templates the same way and since they are close in the file structure, the migration is very quick to do. I do this before I even open the new versions of SketchUp and LayOut and in SU I can choose my default template the first time SketchUp opens. This also means I have a backup of all these files just in case.

      What you are doing is definitely another way to set things up and part of the reason they give you the option to make these preference settings. Nothing wrong with it.

      I've seen some reports from some users in which the folder locations set in Preferences have gotten set back to the defaults. I guess since I'm using the default that wouldn't ever be a problem for me. πŸ˜‰

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      • ntxdaveN Offline
        ntxdave
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        @dave r said:

        I copy the Components, Materials, Styles, and Templates folders all at once to the equivalent location for the new version. I do the LayOut folders for scrapbooks and templates the same way and since they are close in the file structure, the migration is very quick to do. I do this before I even open the new versions of SketchUp and LayOut and in SU I can choose my default template the first time SketchUp opens. This also means I have a backup of all these files just in case.

        Yes, makes sense. Guess I was thinking too much about the duplication of the files and the disk space that consumes. However, you comment of having backup copies is a good point. Think I also have too many copies of SU installed which would consume even more disk space. πŸ˜•

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          Like anything it doesn't take some discipline to keep things cleaned up. Actually I like doing the migration to a new version because it gives me incentive to clean up my files. When I'm teaching I sometimes end up making stuff for demonstration purposes and installing a new version is a good time to clear that stuff out. I also find it useful for clearing out unneeded extensions and plugins. They seem to collect over the course of the year. If I find I have some that aren't getting used, I don't install them in the next version.

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          • J Offline
            jerrymich
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            Dave,

            I've enclosed some screen shots of my component pane (2) each and (1) of my component file that I have been saving to. As you can see, the file and the pane are different. Nomenclature as numbers are different. They are both, according to my preferences, as well as the file, have the same path so I don't understand why they are different.

            Also, how are you opening up a second pane and dragging to that?

            Thanks


            component pane.PNG


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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              What do you see if you open the LITCHENAID 36IN PRO RANGE directly from the folder? Or better, could you share it here so I can take a look at it?

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              • J Offline
                jerrymich
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                Dave, here is the file for the stove. Hope this helps


                KITCHENAID 36IN PRO RANGE.skp

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Hi Jerry,

                  The range model file you downloaded has the component name and description embedded in the file by the author.
                  Screenshot - 5_13_2021 , 3_40_52 PM.png

                  There isn't a way in SketchUp proper to change that embedded stuff although it might be possible with some Ruby script. You can upload the component/model to the 3D Warehouse and change the name and description if you want. Here I've done that with that range. Frankly that seems like too much work to me, though.
                  Screenshot - 5_13_2021 , 3_45_58 PM.png

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                  • J Offline
                    jerrymich
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                    Dave, I'm OK with leaving the name as the author so chose, but if you notice in the components that load from sketchup, other than the ones i've downloaded, have different names. For example, the file that I'm saving them to has a 12" linen, a 15" linen, a 18" linen etc., but the ones in the pane are all 18" linen. I don't get why you can have the same path and yet get different results. IDK, maybe I'm not explaining it right...

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Did you make the other ones from the 18" one?

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                      • J Offline
                        jerrymich
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                        Yes, I made a copy of the component, made it unique, changed the size and saved it to the file. Can you not do that?

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          Are you right clicking on the component and using Save as? That seems to be problematic because the embedded info doesn't get changed.

                          Better process would be to drag and drop from In Model to the desired folder. Here's an example.

                          Here I made a component I called Box 12 on the left. I copied it, made the copy unique, renamed it and changed its dimensions. Then I repeated that for the third one. In the Components panel I opened the secondary pane and set it to the folder where I want to save the components and then dragged and dropped the thumbnails into that folder.
                          Screenshot - 5_13_2021 , 8_04_13 PM.png

                          And here's what the folder look like.
                          Screenshot - 5_13_2021 , 8_07_48 PM.png

                          Later, if another different component is needed, I can drag one of the existing ones into the model, copy it and make that copy unique, change its name, make the desired modifications and then drag that new one into the collection. This gets around the problem you are seeing.

                          I think there have been some reports about what you describe and I believe the SU team know about it. Might see a change at some point but with the method I described, there's no problem at all.

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                          • J Offline
                            jerrymich
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                            Thanks Dave, I'll give that a try.

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