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      thegoodguy
      last edited by

      @pilou said:

      Can't reload your last skp ! (save as 2016 as previous) πŸ˜‰

      Hi pilou,

      The last skp I uploaded (follow-me-problem-2.skp) was in 2016 format πŸ˜•

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        thegoodguy
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        Wow!

        I kind of owe you all a little apology. The rectangular profile was super-simplified to illustrate the problem. I realise now that the impacts any solutions you guys may post. The actual profile I want to use is this:
        profile.JPG

        Box; As I mentioned in my initial post, I tried Upright Extruder. It produces results much like the vertex option. It's good, but not perfect. The edge-extrusion/joint-push-pull produces similar results too, and also, I don't think that option would work with the profile I need. True-Bend is a great suggestion. After "flattening" the ring rail/path using the Unfold tool, producing a flattened complete ring using follow-me and the profile, and then using True-Bend, I'm getting exactly what I need.
        flat-ring.JPG

        The only issue I'm having now is the final solid isn't the "solid" that's needed for 3D-printing. There are many errors that Solid-Inspector finds. I know this is due to the high resultion I need to get a good final result when the ring is actually cast. I'm experimenting with scaling up before True-Bending. Hopefully that will solve the solid issue.

        Thank you all for your input, suggestions and solutions. They've been v helpful and have reduced my headache πŸ˜„

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          pilou
          last edited by

          And why not use Curviloft for propagate some profils on rails?

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            thegoodguy
            last edited by

            And the winner is ... Curviloft

            Excellent solution pilou. Thank you v much. The perfect shape and a perfect solid with no complex intersections to fix.

            winner.JPG

            Should fit snuggly against this lovely little Edwardian engagement ring.

            ring.jpg

            Thanks again, everyone.

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              Box
              last edited by

              If you are doing a lot of jewelry it would be well worth your time to look into using vertex tools and true bend. It makes it easy to create rings from non symmetric geometry. And you can be as detailed as you need as long as you model cleanly. This required no cleanup after the bend except the removal of the double inner faces at the join. I only used 96 segments but you can easily go to the 200 you were using if need be.

              https://i.imgur.com/dNgiCt6.gif

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                thegoodguy
                last edited by

                Hi again,

                Upon closer inspection, although the solidness is good and the profile alignment is good along all of the "straight" section of the rail, using Curviloft, the profile does twist on the shaped part of the rail. Back to TrueBend and solid-fixing. Scaling up x1000 reduced the errors to only 3 ... phew.

                Just thought you might like to know.

                x-section-curviloft.JPG

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                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Maybe we can try something...
                  Post the file of Profils and Rails in dxf format and let see that Moi3D (nurbs) will made as result in SKP format export...

                  ...not sure...of the result πŸ˜„ (it's not your file just a test)

                  Here the structure of export SKP

                  humhum.jpg

                  Reloaded in SU
                  more_poly1jpg.jpg

                  I must ask more polygons in export! πŸ€“ (rendered as SKP file)

                  morepoly.jpg

                  This time edges are perfect! (for an SKP file) πŸ˜„

                  more poly2.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    thegoodguy
                    last edited by

                    Hi pilou,

                    Rail and profile DXF file uploaded.

                    Thanks


                    rail+profile.zip

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                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Next version of Moi (V4) will be more adapted for erase problems of the DXF!

                      Another thing : i must reduce the number of Control Points of the curves!
                      Or even redraw over it...
                      (Whithout change the form of course! )

                      GIF_numerous points.gif

                      GIF_numerouspts2.gif

                      sharp_angle.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        OK: reloadable! πŸ˜„

                        Just a question : does the section is on the good place or must be placed like that ?
                        Or by it's gravity's center ?

                        GIF_as_that.gif

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          thegoodguy
                          last edited by

                          Looks good pilou.

                          I finally got it done using TrueBend.

                          Thanks.

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                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            With section on the middle side ... path with 20 points against 200 points! πŸ˜‰

                            https://images2.imgbox.com/6d/47/hMrcKzRK_o.gif

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Just for be sure : your dxf was made directly from SketchUP or from another program ?

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                Many regulates can be done... πŸ˜‰
                                This structure will be the SKP structure! πŸ€“

                                https://images2.imgbox.com/da/64/BAQAY5NM_o.gif

                                Here one...(skp file rendered)

                                https://images2.imgbox.com/2d/cf/OGGhxqR7_o.jpg

                                ps SKP linked


                                pinky_ring.zip

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  thegoodguy
                                  last edited by

                                  @pilou said:

                                  Just for be sure : your dxf was made directly from SketchUP or from another program ?

                                  Hi pilou,

                                  Yes, it was exported from SU.

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Thx for the info!

                                    Dxf from SketchUp are specific because curves are polylines so numerous "control points" !
                                    Maybe Circles and Arcs can be exported as real curves...

                                    With this one by Joergberg πŸ€“ (for SU Make)
                                    So circles and arcs are not "segmented" ! 😎
                                    dxf.jpg

                                    As we can see for the circle...that is a true curve!
                                    dxf1.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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