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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by

      The vertical jumps now look at lot better. So far it seems pretty solid:

      eng_su70_800.jpg

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
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        Here are the different EB (Euler-Bernoulli) and TIMO (Timoshenko) deflections for the same simple supported beam with a basic UDL (no self weight, just the external load applied) :

        eng_su92_800.jpg

        eng_su93_800.jpg

        eng_su94_800.jpg

        My parameters are:

        2×10, L=144 in, E=1.7e6 psi, I=98.931 in⁴, A=13.875 in², G=106250 psi, κ=5/6

        As you can see the Timoshenko analysis yields slightly more deflection since we are accounting for deflection from both shear and bending. According to my calculations my results are within less than 0.05% of the theoretical value so I think the algorithm is working correctly

        Now I need to check a few different multi-span configurations as well as overhangs to make sure everything is indeed robust.

        When I calculate the Timoshenko beam I'm wondering if I should adjust the tabulated E value since it is being adjusted for the shear already by %3 for sawn lumber per Appendix F of the NDS (Sec. F.3). So the listed value is is actually 3% larger than the (shear-free) or true value of E.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • gullfoG Offline
          gullfo
          last edited by gullfo

          would an easy way to compare E with and without the adjustment in case it's significant enough for someone to review their parameters? e.g. https://woodengineering.com/2022/07/16/shear-free-eeee/

          Glenn

          http://www.runnel.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
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            I still have completely finished the PDF reports since I've had my head so buried in the Timoshenko stuff for a couple of weeks (probably not a good use of my time but I couldn't resist).  Here is some output for a couple of cases (two span and three span beam, equal spans with a UDL).  What is interesting is the shape of the deflection graphs for the Timoshenko analysis.  I think the numbers are correct but to be honest I really don't have another 3rd party program I can fully test against.

            I'm using a kappa of 5/6 and a G of 1/16 the E value, so in this case G = 106,250

            Also I am just using the listed value of E for my Timoshenko calculations even though it already includes a 3% bump for shear built in.

            EB = Euler Bernoulli, TIMO = Timoshenko

            http://medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST8/EB_TEST8_2SPAN_UDL.pdf

            http://medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST8/EB_TEST8_3SPAN_UDL.pdf

            http://medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST8/TIMO_TEST8_2SPAN_UDL.pdf

            http://medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST8/TIMO_TEST8_3SPAN_UDL.pdf

            As a sanity check I multiplied my calculated value of G above by 10,000 in the code and then ran the TIMO analysis, the results are almost identical to the EB analysis as expected, so that tells me that with an extreme stiffness the TIMO degrades to an EB analysis as it should in theory.  Here are the links to the TIMO analsys with a 10,000X inflated G:

            http://medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST8/TIMO_TEST8_2SPAN_UDL_GMAX.pdf

            http://medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST8/TIMO_TEST8_3SPAN_UDL_GMAX.pdf

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              Here are a couple examples, everything should be complete, but I will now spend the next couple of weeks error checking and seeing if I can break the engine or the report formatting. I will also need to test against other third party programs to make sure all my calcs are indeed correct. It is amazing how easy it is to make errors in the code on something this extensive.

              https://design.medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST1/EB_TEST1_2SPAN_1POINT_REV8.pdf

              https://design.medeek.com/resources/engplugin/TEST1/EB_TEST1_3SPAN_3POINT_REV1.pdf

              Currently the calculator will only handle sawn lumber beams. Once I'm fairly certain I've eliminated any bugs or other issues I will then extend the logic so we can handle glulam and timber beams. Once that is done I will probably next work on LVL, LSL, and PSL and then finally I will include the ability to analyze various I-joists from the major manufacturers.

              I've been slowly working on this for about three months now, probably another month to go.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Version 0.8.3 - 11.12.2025

                • Enabled a detailed and simple engineering report/analysis for sawn lumber beams.
                • Added an option to switch between Euler-Bernoulli and Timoshenko beam analysis.
                • Report now includes live load and total load deflection graphs.
                • Shear, Moment and Deflection graphs can be toggled to all load combinations within the report.

                Tutorial 1 - Beam Calculator

                I'm very excited about this release, it is the first time in history (that I know of) that one can do actual engineering all within SketchUp. The API is magical, you can turn SketchUp into just about any thing you can imagine.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Version 0.8.4 - 11.21.2025

                  • Fixed a bug with partial bearing at end supports.
                  • Added the bearing area factor (Cb) to the bearing calculations and adjustment factors table.
                  • Added the "Braced at Supports" option to the top and bottom lateral bracing options.
                  • Fixed the lateral bracing algorithm for bending so that blocking at supports is enabled (bracing at top and bottom).
                  • Fixed the algorithm for lateral bracing so that the unbraced length is correctly calculated.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Tutorial 2 - Lateral Stability (18:31 min.)

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      The other issue I am a bit unclear on is the unbraced length (lu) especially in the case of checking negative moments in multi-span situations (unbraced bottom). I've checked a number of examples in Donald Breyer's book "Design of Wood Structures". Rather than considering the lu as the actual span he is calculating the lu as the distance between the points of zero moment. I could use a bit of clarification on this. Section 3.3.3.4 of the NDS (page 17) only talks about the distance between points of intermediate lateral support.

                      After giving this some more thought and digging through the NDS a bit more I think the reason that Breyer makes this assumption is that the language in the NDS for computing the Cv (volume factor) does say the distance between points of zero moments. He then seems to extends this idea to computing the CL by using the same logic to determine the unbraced length (on both sides of a support). See example 6.28 in chapter 6.16.

                      My only problem with this is that it would seem like it would be unconservative in many cases with multi-span beams where you are computing the CL for negative moments (at supports). However by using the full intermediate span length as the unbraced length perhaps it is too conservative. I wish the NDS would give more guidance on this matter, I can only guess at the intent and supposed correct algorithm at this point.

                      Let's consider the example shown in the image below:

                      eng_su110_800.jpg

                      If we consider that there is no lateral bracing at the intermediate support at 84" (bottom of beam) then per Breyer's method the unbraced length is between points of zero moment (x=67" to x=108"), so the unbraced length for the negative bending (neg. moment) is equal to 41". However I would argue that it is the full beam length, both spans, so 144".

                      If we do consider that the beam is laterally braced (bottom of the beam) at the intermediate support at x = 84" then Breyer considers the worse case of the two conditions 84 - 67 = 17" and 108 - 84 = 24" and he concludes that the unbraced length should be 24". I would look at both spans on each side of the support or max. negative moment and take the larger of the two 84" > 60", so the unbraced length should be 84".

                      Thoughts? Am I too conservative?

                      On a slightly different note I would use 41" length to compute my Cv for the negative bending (for both cases given above). This is per the NDS verbage (Sec. 5.3.6).

                      eng_su111_800.jpg

                      eng_su112_800.jpg

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Version 0.8.5 - 12.05.2025

                        • Updated the licensing system with an improved algorithm (bug fix for SU 2022 and greater).
                        • Added a "Deflection Analysis" tool to the main toolbar.
                        • Added deflection analysis as an option within the beam context menu.
                        • Updated the "Beams" tab of the Global Settings with various options.

                        eng_su115_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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