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    • B Offline
      bbxrider
      last edited by

      just started using 2d tools, it seems to only draw on the green plane and even more than that, even if I draw a line on the blue plane and then change its style with 2d tools, the changes to the line can only be seen by looking down on it like it was a line drawn on the green plane??
      2d.tools1.pdf

      [img]2d.tools2.pdf[/img]

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      • TIGT Offline
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        last edited by

        A face has a front and a back.
        When you 'style' an edge that is associated with a face the styled-linework is drawn over the front of the face.
        In the examples you illustrated the visible side of the face is shown blue-gray - which is the back, if you orbit around and look at the other side you'll probably see the styling ?

        To orient faces properly select them and use the context-menu to 'Reverse' them, before styling.
        Alternatively, select the edges to be styled and copy by grouping, edit the group and style them independently of the face.

        Edges without faces are styled oriented upwards.
        Edges with two faces at different angles are styled on the face that is facing the camera...

        TIG

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          bbxrider
          last edited by

          thanks for the reply, not sure why my pics are not showing
          inline, what I selected

          orbiting shows 2d styling from top down or bottom up, but not
          reverse side

          not sure what context menu you talk about, I think I tried
          all selections but don't see any 'reverse'

          [img]2d.tools3.pdf[/img]

          [img]2d.tools4.pdf[/img]

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            bbxrider
            last edited by

            thanks for the reply

            not sure where the context menu is? I think I looked at all
            the menus and drop downs and didn't see anything labeled reverse

            I can see the style changes by orbit but not behind, they show from
            above or below.

            I will be drawing adjoining rectangles that represent an exterior
            wall construction and want to insert lines in between them representing things
            like house wrap and caulking.

            the lines that directly show styling are drawn on the red plane however
            rectangles react kinda strange, see pic

            I don't care which plane I draw the objects on if I can get all lines to show
            styling whether lines or shapes

            just an aside, can't figure out how to get images inserted inline, this is what
            post content has before submitting, that is the name of the file I uploaded in between
            the attachment tags
            2d.tools4.pdf

            before styling applied
            2d.tools3.pdf

            after styling applied
            2d.tools4.pdf

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              The context-menu is accessed through a right-click.
              If a face is selected beforehand Reverse is listed...

              TIG

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                bbxrider
                last edited by

                thanks again for the ongoing follow up
                after selecting the line I want to style and right click see
                pic for the context menu that comes up
                there is no reverse on it or any of its sub menus/drop downs
                I'm using sketchup make 2017, maybe reverse is included in my installation?

                do lines have edges and faces like more complex objects such as rectangles?
                googling around and reading forum posts I haven't seen anything to isolate edges on lines

                when you say "To orient faces properly select them" how to that as opposed to
                selecting the object?

                2d.tools5.pdf

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Basic geometry consists of edges and faces
                  A face is always bounded by edges - it cannot exist without them.
                  But edges can exist without any face associated with them.

                  I said to select the face an reverse its orientation.
                  Unless you select a face there's no 'Reverse' in the context-menu.
                  Selecting an edge on its own won't do what you want...

                  'Flat' edges will style with the styled-geometry facing up.
                  If an edge bounds a face, then the face's orientation determines which way the styled-geometry faces - that's why reversing a face affects how its new styling appears.
                  If an edge is shared by more than one face then the face that's most squarely oriented onto the camera is used for the orientation of the styling...

                  TIG

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