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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
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      There are similar timber connectors used across the EU, just like your showed.
      But most of France is not that seismically active.
      But using such connectors wouldn't hurt at all !
      Their house might fall down but your gazebo will stand !

      Obviously in the USA your nominal:actual sizes lose -1/2" - in the EU it's more likely -6mm [-1/4"] - our timber is more scarce and expensive, and our planers more precise ? !

      You need to get your Cannes client to confirm what finished timber sizes are available locally...
      "Please conform what regularized timber sizes are available locally: 5cm to 20cm inclusive"
      "Veuillez vous conformer aux tailles de bois régularisées disponibles localement: 5cm à 20cm inclus"

      TIG

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      • Joe WoodJ Offline
        Joe Wood
        last edited by

        Good Info Tig! How about those search terms, if you speak French?

        Joe Wood
        woodsshop.com/

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        • Joe WoodJ Offline
          Joe Wood
          last edited by

          cour à bois à Cannes France?

          chantier bois à Cannes France?

          what do they call places that sell lumber / timber?

          Joe Wood
          woodsshop.com/

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            Perhaps: http://www.englishspoken.info/English_Info_Results6.php?Department=France:96&Trade=Shops/Suppliers/Dealers
            http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/forums/2695420/ShowPost.aspx
            http://www.granvillebois.com/index.html

            Remember that in English-English it's not called "Lumber", it's Timber or Wood...

            TIG

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            • Joe WoodJ Offline
              Joe Wood
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              Oh right on Tig some very good links!

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                What a headache for me to do it all in metric!

                It's nothing compare of the inverse for us! 💚

                it's follish to use imperial unities in the 21 century! 😄

                Remember Mars climate orbiter cost! 😄

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  what do they call places that sell lumber / timber?

                  a sawmill ? = une scierie 😉

                  or any building materials distributor = distributeur de matériaux de construction

                  @unknownuser said:

                  But most of France is not very seismically active.

                  Yes but Cannes is like San Fransisco! Near by the sea and inside a seismic zone!

                  We are waiting a big one too! Earthquake or Tsunami or both in the same time!

                  See what append year after year in Italy! 😲

                  A famous French volcanologist Haroun Tazieff has predicted that!

                  http://img.over-blog.com/482x360/3/02/18/95/actu-8/Actu-9/Actu-10/actu-13/Dossier-16/Dossier-24/haroun-tazieff--image-Fr.-Le-Guern.jpg

                  Cannes - Nice 34 kms !
                  From this Map : Cannes is on orange zone = moderated seismicity

                  https://niceavence.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/seisme_web.jpg

                  http://s2.lemde.fr/image/2013/08/16/534x0/3462523_5_f759_une-cartographie-inedite-devrait-deboucher_0432bc5aef2e06da0a6e175f3e55bb54.png

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • Joe WoodJ Offline
                    Joe Wood
                    last edited by

                    Yes I agree, I wish I was brought up using metric, would make it a lot easier to do all the calculations carpenters need to make!

                    Joe Wood
                    woodsshop.com/

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                    • L Offline
                      L i am
                      last edited by

                      @pilou said:

                      @unknownuser said:

                      What a headache for me to do it all in metric!

                      It's nothing compare of the inverse for us! 💚

                      it's follish to use imperial unities in the 21 century! 😄

                      Remember Mars climate orbiter cost! 😄

                      Could not agree more. In my early school days Australia was imperial but changed to metric in about 1975 so I have a perspective on the subject. I was originally a firefighter and 1 ft of water had a head of 0.433 pounds per square inch. cubic foot (62.4 lb/ft3); dont get me started 👎 1 cubic meter of water weighs 1 tonne. All of a sudden fire-ground hydraulics could be done in your head by moving decimal points.

                      Three countries on the entire planet which are not using the metric system are Liberia, Myanmar and of course… the United States of America 😉

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                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                        Joe Wood
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                        What do you call posts and beams in the UK, and when you talk about wall and floor framing do you use 'framing'?

                        how about in France, Poteaux et poutres?

                        floor framing in France, charpente du plancher?

                        Joe Wood
                        woodsshop.com/

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                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                          Joe Wood
                          last edited by

                          You misunderstood my question Pilou.

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Poteaux = Vertical
                            Poutres = Horizontal or inclined

                            floor framing = l'ossature du plancher, la structure du plancher, le support du plancher...la charpente du plancher 😄

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Sure! 😄
                              Poteaux / Poutres ?
                              An image can better explain than a text! 😉

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                Joe Wood
                                last edited by

                                This is floor framing
                                Floor Framing.jpg

                                this is wall framing
                                typical-wall-framing.png

                                and these are the posts and beams 🙂
                                IMG_5063.JPG

                                Joe Wood
                                woodsshop.com/

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                                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                  Joe Wood
                                  last edited by

                                  My questions are

                                  What do you call posts and beams in France, Poteaux et poutres?

                                  and floor framing, charpente du plancher ?

                                  Joe Wood
                                  woodsshop.com/

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Ok! So what is the question(s) ? 😄
                                    If this exist also in France ?

                                    Put "ossature bois" inside google research image! 😉
                                    "plancher à ossature bois"
                                    "charpente à ossature bois"
                                    "mur à ossature bois"

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Affirmative! 😄
                                      Post = Poteau (un poteau, le poteau)
                                      Beam = Poutre (une poutre, la poutre)

                                      floor framing = l'ossature du plancher, la structure du plancher...la charpente du plancher! 😄

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                        Joe Wood
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank you Frenchy, say, is all that artwork on your site digital or do you do any traditional artwork?

                                        Joe Wood
                                        woodsshop.com/

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          Only digital, but it's just hobbyist relaxing for explore crazzy progs! 😄

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                            Joe Wood
                                            last edited by

                                            Frenchy, what is the French for timber frame? Like with this photo, with the structure joined with mortises and pegs?
                                            [attachment=1:2jr1xk38]<!-- ia1 -->1 Capture d’écran 2017-03-03 à 15.47.15.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:2jr1xk38]

                                            Versus stick framed like this
                                            [attachment=0:2jr1xk38]<!-- ia0 -->1 stick framed.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2jr1xk38]

                                            With the Deep l translator I said I don't do any timber frame designs, and the translator made it 'wooden frame' instead of timber frame.


                                            1 Capture d’écran 2017-03-03 à 15.47.15.png


                                            1 stick framed.jpg

                                            Joe Wood
                                            woodsshop.com/

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