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    • TIGT Online
      TIG Moderator
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      6x6"
      6x8"
      2x6"

      These translate directly into "EU" sizes [some use mm some use cm]

      150x150mm - 15x15cm
      150x200mm - 15x20cm
      50x150mm - 5x15cm

      However, in the USA you probably specify a 'nominal size' ?
      So your 6" is probably actually a 5 7/8" or 5 3/4", or even less ?

      It's the same in the EU where 'regularized' timber is usually specified when a definite width is needed.
      Since any given timber-mill might produce varying widths you can't trust just saying "nom 50mm" as it'll likely be ± a few mm from that nominal size.
      So you must say it's to be "regularized" at perhaps exactly 44mm [they will then plane a few mm off a "nom 50mm" section if needed].
      OR you could specify it to be regularized from the next standard size up - since the standard step from 50mm is 63mm [then 75mm etc] to get a regularized 50mm seems to waste a lot of wood !

      You need to establish what's available locally.
      If they can economically regularize down to say 52mm then your 2" is all but equivalent !

      TIG

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      • Joe WoodJ Offline
        Joe Wood
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        Yeah Tig I've asked him what sizes he can get, haven't heard back yet. Our 6x6 are actually 5.5" x 5.5", 6x8 are 5.5" x 7.5".

        how about the post to beam connectors, do they even use those there?

        what French search terms would I use to search for a lumber (timber) yard in Cannes?

        Joe Wood
        woodsshop.com/

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        • TIGT Online
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          There are similar timber connectors used across the EU, just like your showed.
          But most of France is not that seismically active.
          But using such connectors wouldn't hurt at all !
          Their house might fall down but your gazebo will stand !

          Obviously in the USA your nominal:actual sizes lose -1/2" - in the EU it's more likely -6mm [-1/4"] - our timber is more scarce and expensive, and our planers more precise ? !

          You need to get your Cannes client to confirm what finished timber sizes are available locally...
          "Please conform what regularized timber sizes are available locally: 5cm to 20cm inclusive"
          "Veuillez vous conformer aux tailles de bois régularisées disponibles localement: 5cm à 20cm inclus"

          TIG

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          • Joe WoodJ Offline
            Joe Wood
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            Good Info Tig! How about those search terms, if you speak French?

            Joe Wood
            woodsshop.com/

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            • Joe WoodJ Offline
              Joe Wood
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              cour à bois à Cannes France?

              chantier bois à Cannes France?

              what do they call places that sell lumber / timber?

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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              • TIGT Online
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                Perhaps: http://www.englishspoken.info/English_Info_Results6.php?Department=France:96&Trade=Shops/Suppliers/Dealers
                http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/forums/2695420/ShowPost.aspx
                http://www.granvillebois.com/index.html

                Remember that in English-English it's not called "Lumber", it's Timber or Wood...

                TIG

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                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                  Joe Wood
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                  Oh right on Tig some very good links!

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    What a headache for me to do it all in metric!

                    It's nothing compare of the inverse for us! 💚

                    it's follish to use imperial unities in the 21 century! 😄

                    Remember Mars climate orbiter cost! 😄

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      what do they call places that sell lumber / timber?

                      a sawmill ? = une scierie 😉

                      or any building materials distributor = distributeur de matériaux de construction

                      @unknownuser said:

                      But most of France is not very seismically active.

                      Yes but Cannes is like San Fransisco! Near by the sea and inside a seismic zone!

                      We are waiting a big one too! Earthquake or Tsunami or both in the same time!

                      See what append year after year in Italy! 😲

                      A famous French volcanologist Haroun Tazieff has predicted that!

                      http://img.over-blog.com/482x360/3/02/18/95/actu-8/Actu-9/Actu-10/actu-13/Dossier-16/Dossier-24/haroun-tazieff--image-Fr.-Le-Guern.jpg

                      Cannes - Nice 34 kms !
                      From this Map : Cannes is on orange zone = moderated seismicity

                      https://niceavence.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/seisme_web.jpg

                      http://s2.lemde.fr/image/2013/08/16/534x0/3462523_5_f759_une-cartographie-inedite-devrait-deboucher_0432bc5aef2e06da0a6e175f3e55bb54.png

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                        Joe Wood
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                        Yes I agree, I wish I was brought up using metric, would make it a lot easier to do all the calculations carpenters need to make!

                        Joe Wood
                        woodsshop.com/

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                        • L Offline
                          L i am
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                          @pilou said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          What a headache for me to do it all in metric!

                          It's nothing compare of the inverse for us! 💚

                          it's follish to use imperial unities in the 21 century! 😄

                          Remember Mars climate orbiter cost! 😄

                          Could not agree more. In my early school days Australia was imperial but changed to metric in about 1975 so I have a perspective on the subject. I was originally a firefighter and 1 ft of water had a head of 0.433 pounds per square inch. cubic foot (62.4 lb/ft3); dont get me started 👎 1 cubic meter of water weighs 1 tonne. All of a sudden fire-ground hydraulics could be done in your head by moving decimal points.

                          Three countries on the entire planet which are not using the metric system are Liberia, Myanmar and of course… the United States of America 😉

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                          • Joe WoodJ Offline
                            Joe Wood
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                            What do you call posts and beams in the UK, and when you talk about wall and floor framing do you use 'framing'?

                            how about in France, Poteaux et poutres?

                            floor framing in France, charpente du plancher?

                            Joe Wood
                            woodsshop.com/

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                            • Joe WoodJ Offline
                              Joe Wood
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                              You misunderstood my question Pilou.

                              Joe Wood
                              woodsshop.com/

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
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                                Poteaux = Vertical
                                Poutres = Horizontal or inclined

                                floor framing = l'ossature du plancher, la structure du plancher, le support du plancher...la charpente du plancher 😄

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Sure! 😄
                                  Poteaux / Poutres ?
                                  An image can better explain than a text! 😉

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                    Joe Wood
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                                    This is floor framing
                                    Floor Framing.jpg

                                    this is wall framing
                                    typical-wall-framing.png

                                    and these are the posts and beams 🙂
                                    IMG_5063.JPG

                                    Joe Wood
                                    woodsshop.com/

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                                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                      Joe Wood
                                      last edited by

                                      My questions are

                                      What do you call posts and beams in France, Poteaux et poutres?

                                      and floor framing, charpente du plancher ?

                                      Joe Wood
                                      woodsshop.com/

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
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                                        Ok! So what is the question(s) ? 😄
                                        If this exist also in France ?

                                        Put "ossature bois" inside google research image! 😉
                                        "plancher à ossature bois"
                                        "charpente à ossature bois"
                                        "mur à ossature bois"

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          Affirmative! 😄
                                          Post = Poteau (un poteau, le poteau)
                                          Beam = Poutre (une poutre, la poutre)

                                          floor framing = l'ossature du plancher, la structure du plancher...la charpente du plancher! 😄

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                            Joe Wood
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                                            Thank you Frenchy, say, is all that artwork on your site digital or do you do any traditional artwork?

                                            Joe Wood
                                            woodsshop.com/

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