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    • chippwaltersC Offline
      chippwalters
      last edited by chippwalters

      Hey all, I'm working on an AR/VR Alamo project which involves an historically accurate depiction of the Alamo circa 1836 and the siege and battle. It will have over 20 custom created high poly characters created by my friend Jerry Perkings (MasterXeon2001) and others. He works mostly with Blender, ZBrush and Substance Painter. I'm using primarily SketchUp, 3D Coat and Substance Painter.

      More can be found out about this project at the websites:
      http://alamoreality.com
      http://imaginevirtua.com

      I'm working with Alamo historians including [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_L._Hardin:3fei1w41]Stephen Hardin[/url:3fei1w41] and [url=https://truewestmagazine.com/gary-zaboly/:3fei1w41]Gary Zaboly[/url:3fei1w41], the two foremost names in Alamo [url=https://www.amazon.com/Stephen-L.-Hardin/e/B001H6UFEM:3fei1w41]history[/url:3fei1w41] and it's [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=gary+zaboly%26amp;rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS698US698%26amp;source=lnms%26amp;tbm=isch%26amp;sa=X%26amp;ved=0ahUKEwjOjqbju5LWAhWIRiYKHejJAJwQ_AUICigB%26amp;biw=1490%26amp;bih=1290:3fei1w41]architecture[/url:3fei1w41].

      To my knowledge, there has never been a 3D project of this scope and magnitude created about the Alamo. We're having daily sessions going over details such as the stitching on General Cos' uniform, and the holes knocked out of the Alamo church entranceway for the cannons to be wheeled in. Fascination stuff.

      This thread will help document some of the work I'm doing in SketchUp to create the total architectural piece of the full Alamo and it's associated buildings, landscape and props.

      I'm using several plugins to help with the building and rendering of the models. I'm glad to answer any questions, or take advice on any of the techniques discussed.

      https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/ARscene.jpg

      Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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      • chippwaltersC Offline
        chippwalters
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        I tend to always model in SketchUp keeping components and groups solids if at all possible. This allows me model integrity as I go along, and makes editing these later much easier. For instance, just today I received word from Gary I had missed a window in a key place on the Church which was only revealed in drawings done well over a century ago. Because the window would have to pass through a wall AND a vaulted ceiling, it was easy to do using booleans.

        As far as booleans go, I really like using both SU Pros Booleans as well as Dale Martens (Whaat)BoolTools 2. His Booleans can be somewhat tempermental, but they work when SketchUp's don't, so I encourage both sets. I also use his Artisan tools quite a bit as well as ThomThom's Vertex Tools.

        Here are some more of the early developmental sketches. They were rendered with Fluid Interactive's Ambient Occlusion plugin then composited in Pshop with a SU line drawing export. I've since purchased SketchFX as well to streamline this process. I'll show some images in a later post.

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/1.jpg

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/13A.jpg

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/16A.jpg

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/18A.jpg

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/23A.jpg

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/24A.jpg

        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/28A.jpg

        Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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        • chippwaltersC Offline
          chippwalters
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          One of the cannons was the first prop I worked on. The goal is to create a photoreal version of it which when rendered in Unity looked like the real thing. I also needed to create a realistic and properly colored version of it for 3D Printing. Just building out the workflow for it took over a weeks time but the results worked great.

          Here's the SU model which as you can see the wheels and the support beams were skewed, so I created on-axis component accurate versions of them, then copied them and adjusted in other components.

          https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/cannontop.jpg

          https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/cannonperspective.jpg

          Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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          • chippwaltersC Offline
            chippwalters
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            Back to the Alamo church. After base approval, the model is tweaked and further componentized, keeping mindful of creating solids which could easily be voxelized in 3D Coat for adding further distress.

            The workflow for creating the correct textures includes a custom shader I built in Unity, the details can be found at: https://public.3.basecamp.com/p/oTZSntqtnpobGTrE4WmpRq6P

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/ashader.jpg

            As the shader does a great job with the normal bakes, you can see the hard lines of the underlying low poly geometry belies it's simple shape on profile views. So, my next step was to go into and add some very low poly distress to corners and edges where they might be seen frequently in profile.

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/a14.jpg

            Currently, I'm working with my new SketchFX Ex extension to figure out a custom render theme and video workflow for these in progress pictures. Here are a few tests..

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/alamo2.jpg

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/a3.jpg

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/a15.jpg

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/a9.jpg

            https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/a2.jpg

            Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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            • chippwaltersC Offline
              chippwalters
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              Early stuff:
              I started off by using the Oob topology plugins to grab a site terrain to begin work with. I then used Gary's notes, drawings and legacy Alamo blueprints to begin to layout the site. One great thing about SU is each Group/Component has it's own local axis and it made it very easy to work in different axis planes for each of the buildings. This allowed me to keep the model true to compass, so I can then later identify accurate lighting and shadows.

              https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/27A.jpg

              https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/a001.jpg

              Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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              • N Offline
                nickchun
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                Fantastic! I will be taking a look in more detail when I get a chance, its interseting to see how you integrate all the different software. πŸ‘
                Love the clay and sketchy renders also.

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  This is exciting! Beautiful, beautiful work1 The cannons alone, or the facade alone...are work to be proud of. Hope we get to see the final result!

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  • chippwaltersC Offline
                    chippwalters
                    last edited by

                    @nickchun said:

                    Fantastic! I will be taking a look in more detail when I get a chance, its interseting to see how you integrate all the different software. πŸ‘
                    Love the clay and sketchy renders also.

                    Thanks. πŸ˜„

                    @pbacot said:

                    This is exciting! Beautiful, beautiful work1 The cannons alone, or the facade alone...are work to be proud of. Hope we get to see the final result!

                    Thank you.
                    The facade renders are BEFORE I'll be adding the actual textures for the game model. I expect they'll be much better when completed.

                    Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      This is intense! Following along

                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                      • chippwaltersC Offline
                        chippwalters
                        last edited by

                        I then took the SU cannon into 3D Coat and added distress. There were three objects, one for each material (wood, bronze cannon, and metal). OBJs were exported and UVs added automatically in 3D Coat.

                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/3dcdistressed.jpg

                        The model was exported as bake targets for Substance Painter and there materials applied, then exported and rendered in Unity.

                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/can01.jpg

                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/can02.jpg

                        Next the model was tweaked in SU to create a low poly version and baked and mapped again in Substance Designer. Here are the two high poly and low poly versions of the cannon side-by-side in Unity.

                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/cannonsidebyside.jpg

                        Then, the model was voxelized and tweaked in 3DC and made an entire solid for 3D printing. Many of the features had to be 'supersized' in order to meet the material thickness threshold requirements. Here's the under 1M poly finished 3D print model in 3D Coat.

                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/3dc3dprint.jpg

                        Finally, colors needed to be added for 3D printing in Substance Painter. The same bake targets were added and then adjusted for the supersized details. Also, I only used diffuse maps (no normals, metallic, smoothness) as the color Sandstone material would not reflect the other qualities. The model was mapped, exported to MeshLab and converted x3d for final upload to Shapeways.

                        Here's what it should look like when I receive it.

                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/cannonsolid.jpg

                        Here's a video describing some of this process:

                        Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                        • M Offline
                          Mike Amos
                          last edited by

                          Looking really good, something to keep an eye on.

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                          • chippwaltersC Offline
                            chippwalters
                            last edited by

                            A quick set of animation tests with SketchFX Es:

                            Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                            • tuna1957T Offline
                              tuna1957
                              last edited by

                              great stuff πŸ‘

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                              • chippwaltersC Offline
                                chippwalters
                                last edited by

                                Some more front detailing. The statues were quite the challenge as they started off as huge Zbrush files. I dropped them into 3D Coat, voxelized them and began to close all gaps I could find. I then converted them to surfaces, and 3D Coat has this cool tool called Object-ify (separate) which separates a mesh into only contiguous pieces. There's always junk lying around, and this lets me clean it up and then save out a very high (1M+ polys) mesh for baking.

                                I then use 3DC smart decimation to create a very small mesh (all 4 statues are under 900 vertexes each!) and export into SketchUp. I'll bake the original mesh on in Substance later and you can see the result.

                                https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/29.jpg

                                Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  Pretty advanced stuff (and a lot of work). So you turn the image of the detailed mesh into a texture to apply to the simplified model?

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • chippwaltersC Offline
                                    chippwalters
                                    last edited by

                                    @pbacot said:

                                    Pretty advanced stuff (and a lot of work). So you turn the image of the detailed mesh into a texture to apply to the simplified model?

                                    I actually turn it into a single normal map, which when applied, adds a lot of detail to the model. It also creates texture targets in the low poly model allowing me to quickly add diffuse maps for parts and pieces of the single OBJ. There's a video on the process:

                                    Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                    • chippwaltersC Offline
                                      chippwalters
                                      last edited by

                                      Working on the texturing. All are Unity renders.

                                      https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/30.jpg

                                      https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/31.jpg

                                      https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/32.jpg

                                      https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/33.jpg

                                      https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/34.jpg

                                      Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                      • chippwaltersC Offline
                                        chippwalters
                                        last edited by

                                        Finally got the 3D color print back and it looks wonderful.

                                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/p1.jpg

                                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/p2.jpg

                                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/p3.jpg

                                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/p4.jpg

                                        https://altuit.cloud/web/alamo/p5.jpg

                                        Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                        • M Offline
                                          Mike Amos
                                          last edited by

                                          Have you thought about making this a card/paper project? Much cheaper and sales could be greater.

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                                          • chippwaltersC Offline
                                            chippwalters
                                            last edited by

                                            @mike amos said:

                                            Have you thought about making this a card/paper project? Much cheaper and sales could be greater.

                                            That's a great idea! Are there SketchUp plugins/tools that can do this?

                                            Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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