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    Creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

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    • A 離線
      Anton_S
      最後由 編輯

      Yes, Jorgensen,

      The resolution is dependent on the number of vertices of your cloth or any other deformable mesh. If you have a plane made up of many vertices, the the number of bending vertices will be as much. Before getting it fully working, I need to make the faces in between the vertices to be collidable as well. That way things in between, such as the edges of the table shown in the video, won't intersect the cloth. I also need to make different constraints for the nodes that will allow the deformable mesh to stretch and unbend, such as for making a tire, a gummybear, or a sofa, or anything squishy.

      I'm still trying to decide whether to include it in the upcoming release of MSPhysics or write a new plugin that will specifically focus on soft body simulations.

      Regards,
      Anton

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      • pilouP 離線
        pilou
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        Except some little tears that is marvellous! ☀

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • J 離線
          Jorgensen
          最後由 編輯

          hi anton

          my personal thought - release it as quick as possible 😄

          but if i was you, i would design it as a "cloth plugin" for sketchup, that makes it very clear what the plugin is used for - and consider make it a "pay for" plugin - good plugins takes time to develop and i'm sure people will pay, if the quality is there 😄

          thanks
          jorgensen

          sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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          • PixeroP 離線
            Pixero
            最後由 編輯

            Do what ever is easiest for you development wise.
            A cloth simulator would be awesome.
            Making it work with Thomthoms subD would be prefered.

            Don't think too long.
            Just do it! 👍 😄

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            • soloS 離線
              solo
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              @unknownuser said:

              I'm still trying to decide whether to include it in the upcoming release of MSPhysics or write a new plugin that will specifically focus on soft body simulations.

              I vote for a stand alone cloth simulator, great work by the way.

              http://www.solos-art.com

              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              • F 離線
                faust07
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                Great examples in your video, Anton! And it seams to work in MSPhysics.
                A simple variant for MSPhysics would also be welcome.
                This would make moving objects made of flexible materials more natural.
                The problem of interpenetration of the partial surfaces could be solved temporarily with larger hidden body parts.

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                • jujuJ 離線
                  juju
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                  Definitely a separate cloth simulator, pretty please!

                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                  • A 離線
                    Anton_S
                    最後由 編輯

                    Thank you all for your suggestions! Now suggestions for the name of the plugin and some upfront ideas would be great.

                    Right now I'm thinking of naming it, SoftWorks.

                    The plugin will have a UI for controlling the selected deformable groups' mass, stiffness and linear/angular acceleration/damper.

                    There will also be a toolbar.

                    One toolbar button will allow dropping/simulating the selected or all the deformable bodies until a stop button is pressed, which will freeze​ all/selected in place.

                    Another button will allow resetting the original placement of all/selected bodies.

                    And another button will allow toggling the UI.

                    Another two will allow adding Fixed and Slider constraints in places. The touching cloth will automatically will be connected to the constraints.

                    As for the back ground, all other non-ignored visible groups/components will act as static/movable solid bodies.

                    There will also be options for exporting animations.

                    These are the ideas for now. Suggestions that will guide me in the right way would be nice.

                    Thanks!

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                    • soloS 離線
                      solo
                      最後由 編輯

                      'Softworks' works for me, now shut up and take my money already. 💚

                      acb.jpg

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      • F 離線
                        faust07
                        最後由 編輯

                        There are several firms in the world with the name "Softworks"...
                        Regarding the functions of the plugin you are on the right way.
                        It sounds like a little bit of a baby of MSPhysics outside of the physics world.
                        Please don't forget the mother... 😉

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                        • J 離線
                          Jorgensen
                          最後由 編輯

                          Hi Anton

                          I think you should think in search therms / what it does - use words that people search for - i searched for "cloth simulator", so that would be my suggestion (even though is does more).

                          Will I be possible to pick the cloth itself - and deform it?

                          Can you talk about an estimated development time? Like one week or two months?
                          (I know it can be difficult talking about that).

                          Thanks
                          Jorgensen

                          sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                          • PixeroP 離線
                            Pixero
                            最後由 編輯

                            It would be cool if it could have a virtual thickness setting for simulating thicker stuff.
                            And maybe a setting so that it could use let's say every other or third vertices of a dense mesh to speed up simulation.
                            My only name suggestion so far are Draper or ClothWorks.

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                            • M 離線
                              measuredmove
                              最後由 編輯

                              Just a quick Thesaurus search on the word Drape - Cloak, Swathe, Shroud, Veil

                              My 3D Catalogue
                              https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
                              SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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                              • A 離線
                                Anton_S
                                最後由 編輯

                                Solo, good idea! lol

                                Pixero, ClothWorks sounds nice and actually very accurate. Even though it will also allow simulating soft bodies, such as the torus, the collisions acts as if cloth is wrapped around it. The name is also more informal about what the plugin does, which should also attract more users.

                                Jorgensen, it should take 1-3 months to get the first version released. Everything should be easy because most of it is integrating the features of MSPhysics, the other thing is getting a licence system like in Thomthoms SUdb. That, I will need to do more research on.

                                Faust, I will never forget MSPhysics. I will always work on it. In fact ClothWorks with its simplicity, will allow experienced users to get a grip of how MSPhysics works and transition to it MSPhysics for more possibilities.

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                                • J 離線
                                  Jorgensen
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  SSS - Soft Surface Simulator

                                  sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                                  • BoxB 離線
                                    Box
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    Soft drape.
                                    As a stand alone plugin, reasonable price, easy sale.

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                                    • C 離線
                                      cuttingedge
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Something to do with the word "drape" would be apt for its intended use. If there was no drape in the Sandbox tools already--It can be called just DRAPE (IMO). Cloth could be limited to cloth materials.. .
                                      Maybe also fibreworks.. just a thought.

                                      But if we intend to create clothing (like marvelous Designer). Then CLOTH plugin should give everybody a good clue of what it's for.

                                      I am loving this developments.. getting excited again about SU!!

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                                      • N 離線
                                        nlipovac
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        Maybe SuSoft as Sous chef to MSPhysics.
                                        Anyhow, when can we expect it!? 😄

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                                        • filibisF 離線
                                          filibis
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Why on earth noone attempted to create such feature before? 😄
                                          Anyways it's great to see this plugin taking shape.

                                          I suggest using "Soft-body" phrase in the name since it's kind of a universal term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft-body_dynamics

                                          "Soft-body Simulator" maybe?
                                          "**SoftWorks"**and "ClothWorks" are quite reasonable though.

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                                          • M 離線
                                            measuredmove
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            DropCloth or Drop-n-Drape

                                            My 3D Catalogue
                                            https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
                                            SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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