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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      My original algorithm was too simplistic, it did not account for multiple window stacks within a wall panel, now I have that resolved:

      truss_su614_800.jpg

      The final step is to make sure that the blocking and insulation modules are compatible with stacked windows. As can be seen in this screen capture there is still an issue with stacked windows and blocking (right side).

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        Version 1.1.8 - 01.06.2019

        • Added a "Stud Spacing Offset" parameter which allows for custom stud spacing/placement.
        • Enabled stacked windows within a wall panel.

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su616_800.jpg

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su615_800.jpg

        View model here:

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        Both of these items have been on the to-do list for quite some time and together constitute a fairly substantial upgrade to the functionality of the plugin. The offset parameter has been requested numerous times over the last few weeks.

        This update does not yet allow for stacking of windows/doors or doors/doors. However, now that the logic path has been established I should be able to enable these additional possibilities much more quickly. I will see if I can knock this one out this coming week.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          The same stacked windows as below but with the insulation included:

          truss_su617_800.jpg

          I haven't finished the window/door stacking algorithm yet but it occurred to me that window over door is the most common configuration and not the other way around. In fact, I really see no reason to have a door over door algorithm either. Correct me if I'm wrong.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            @unknownuser said:

            I really see no reason to have a door over door algorithm either. Correct me if I'm wrong.

            No doors' emergency exit on the upper levels possible ?

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              Now looking at stacked windows over doors:

              truss_su618_800.jpg

              It's also possible that you might have multiple stacked windows over top of a door as shown to the right. A few things to consider here.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
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                @pilou said:

                @unknownuser said:

                I really see no reason to have a door over door algorithm either. Correct me if I'm wrong.

                No doors' emergency exit on the upper levels possible ?

                Yes, but in that case it will probably be a separate wall panel and not balloon framed to the second level.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Version 1.1.9 - 01.09.2019

                  • Enabled stacked windows over doors within a wall panel.

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su619_800.jpg

                  Note that for this to work correctly the king studs of the window(s) and door must align and the windows and doors must be centered on the same location within the wall.

                  The framing, blocking and insulation modules are now updated for stacked windows and stacked windows over doors.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
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                    As I was comparing the window and door modules this evening a number of things jumped out at me. I've made some updates over the last few months to the window module that did not get propagated to the door module. Here is a short list of items I will work on in the next couple of days to bring the door module up to par:

                    1.) Arched, gothic arch and half round door openings and doors.
                    2.) Variable king stud width for doors
                    3.) Variable trimmer stud width for doors
                    4.) Built up headers for doors
                    5.) Trimmer extend option for doors (for built up headers that have a bottom plate, common construction method in Alberta CANADA).

                    Note that these updates are specifically for man doors and do not apply to garage doors or garage door openings. That will be work for another day.

                    *** IMPORTANT***
                    I'm also considering making the wall plugin able to insert windows, doors and garage doors into generic walls (non-Medeek Walls), similar to what one is able to do with the electrical plugin. I actually don't think this will be too difficult and will make the Window/Door tools more universal and flexible for the user who may or may not always use Medeek walls in a given project.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      1 thru 5 of the items list previously are complete and now functional (not released yet).

                      First look at an arched doorway:

                      https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/e/beda6c242859a9379b9eb9b20fa3c20edd1b40dc.jpeg

                      I now need to complete the door trim, casing and install modules for an arched door. Eventually I will provide the option for all of the various door types (eg. six panel, half glass etc…) however to start with I will just enable the solid arched door.

                      There will also be the permutation involving sidelites and double sidelites with arched doors, but again this will be work for another day.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
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                        You can set the framing mode of the plugin to 2D or “no framing” 3D mode on a wall panel basis or even set the default behavior in the global settings.

                        Once you are comfortable with your design you can switch the wall panels to the full framing mode. The no framing mode generates the wall framing as a single solid. Perhaps I need another tutorial that explains this in further detail. Switching between modes is completely automated, just one mouse click after you right click on the wall assembly(s).

                        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/1/d/1d6329acae0a6c51ba92faeb88089e49982656cc.gif

                        The idea behind the 2D and 3D No Framing modes is to keep the model as lightweight as possible during the early design phases (ie. don’t over complicate things with framing) while at the same time providing enough information to fully understand the design and its dimensional constraints/properties.

                        The 2D mode is great for the initial layout but eventually one of the 3D modes will be required to fully grasp the various wall heights and possibly stacked window layouts etc…

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          First look at an arched door frame and (solid) door:

                          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/f/8f6a5472d21443210dde244ddde9f5598187e5d1.jpeg

                          I think the only thing still pending is to make sure that wainscoting module can handle arched doors and then I will make this upgrade live.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            Version 1.2.0  - 01.15.2019

                            • Added (segmental and half round) arched doors to the door module.
                            • Enabled variable king stud and trimmer stud widths for doors.
                            • Enabled built-up headers for doors.
                            • Enabled the trimmer extend option for doors.
                            • Added casing "Style C" for rectangle and arched doors (gypsum wrap for interior wall openings).

                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/1/e1dad7cf0a96d8adc14ed0dd99f65bc8109e22ca.jpeg

                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/b/dbee1665e452bfe614e74a3fc9d29db1f1c8413b.jpeg

                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/1/71366cc8453758742c08eeb3bc8eb7fa0aee9f72.jpeg

                            I've also addressed a few minor bugs and issues with both the door and window modules.

                            Currently the only arched door style is a "solid" door however I can add additional styles upon request (ie. half glass, double, full glass, six panel etc...)

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              View models of arched doors here:

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                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Version 1.2.0b - 01.16.2020

                                • Fixed a bug with wall presets introduced with the addition of the stud spacing offset parameter.

                                ***** CRITICAL BUG FIX *****
                                If you have previously installed Version 1.1.8 thru Version 1.2.0 then you will want to update your installation to this latest version. The bug was introduced into the wall presets module on 01/06/2020 when the stud spacing offset parameter was added. This bug fix should resolve that bug and allow the creation of wall presets with this latest parameter added to the list of wall parameters.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
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                                  Version 1.2.1 - 01.17.2020

                                  • Added FLUSH:MITER and MITER:FLUSH option to the Wall Cladding Corners parameter.
                                  • Fixed a second bug with wall presets introduced with the addition of the stud spacing offset parameter.

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su625_800.jpg

                                  The additional options for the Wall Cladding Corners parameter is specifically for situations where you encounter a wall cladding material/thickness change at an inside corner as shown.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Version 1.2.1b - 01.17.2020

                                    • Added (segmental and half round) arched double doors to the door module.

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su626_800.jpg

                                    View model here:

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                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      Glenn at home
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                                      Looking good Nathan!

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        I've been considering add an advanced option for Quoins (outside corners only):

                                        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/a/ea8cec59ed5a90224595423ed0bcd18e3db59f6b.jpeg

                                        The required parameters would probably be:

                                        Style:
                                        Length 1:
                                        Length 2:
                                        Height:
                                        Spacing:
                                        Thickness:
                                        Material:

                                        View model here:

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                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
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                                          Version 1.2.1c - 01.17.2020

                                          • Fixed a number of bugs related to stacked doors, door sidelites and backward compatibility with previous versions.
                                          • Added (segmental and half round) arched half glass doors to the door module.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su629_800.jpg

                                          Half glass option per customer request.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
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                                            Version 1.2.1d - 01.18.2020

                                            • Fixed the praire and perimeter grille style for arched half glass and full glass doors.
                                            • Added (segmental and half round) arched full glass doors to the door module.

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su630_800.jpg

                                            It seems like there is always more with doors. The items still needing attention with the door module are:

                                            • Option for transom window above rectangular and arched doors.
                                            • Sidelites for arched doors.
                                            • Additional door types for arched doors (ie. six panel, double half glass, double full glass etc...)
                                            • Sliding doors
                                            • Pocket doors
                                            • Closet bi-fold doors

                                            View model here:
                                            https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/771d1d73-3aea-429f-99d8-caeb9c4c2fa3/Arch-Full-Glass-Doors

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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