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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      I think I've finally been bested by the complicated geometry and the limitations of SketchUp or perhaps my ability to model within SketchUp.

      Notice the raised panel shutters for an arched windows shown below:

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su158_800.jpg

      To create the raised panel effect I will draw the three outlines and then use the transform_entities method to move the edges into the plane. The problem is when I try this with a curved outline(s) as shown SketchUp does not know how to handle the curved planes/surfaces being created.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by

        I guess I haven't been defeated after all. Using the follow-me method I was able to get it to work:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su159_800.jpg

        I now have all the shutter types working for arched windows:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su160_800.jpg

        View model here:

        Link Preview Image
        3D Warehouse

        3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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        (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • jujuJ Offline
          juju
          last edited by

          @medeek said:

          I guess I haven't been defeated after all.

          Rocky-Nathan.jpg

          Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            These are in your plans ?

            https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQV3o09rtmR7I5uwrD5SuXRSM0-vWZlKHcZaZCWE871s4zQFOuc

            http://idata.over-blog.com/2/90/86/68/P1010937--800x600-.jpg

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              @pilou said:

              These are in your plans ?

              https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQV3o09rtmR7I5uwrD5SuXRSM0-vWZlKHcZaZCWE871s4zQFOuc

              http://idata.over-blog.com/2/90/86/68/P1010937--800x600-.jpg

              I have been contemplating them, but haven't put anything in the code as of yet.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                I"m not sure why you would want to put a single shutter to one side of a window but here it is just in case you need it:

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su161_800.jpg

                I will have to wait until tomorrow to roll out all of the shutter updates its now 4:00AM and I'm done for now.

                I think I've now beat this horse to death, shutters are available for rectangle and arched windows in all styles and geometry (Left, Right, Double).

                After I add more window types I will probably need to revisit the shutter module but I don't think shutters are very common for more exotic window shapes (ie. ovals, triangles, trapezoids etc...)

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Left, Right and Double:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su162_800.jpg

                  View model here:

                  Link Preview Image
                  3D Warehouse

                  3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

                  favicon

                  (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                  I've also addressed a bug with arched geometry where the push-pull direction was giving unpredictable results (flipping flopping between in and out). Turns out that you need to clock your segments all in the same direction to get predictable results, which makes sense. For some reason this did not occur to me as I was coding some of these sections of the main window module.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Version 0.8.6b - 07.16.2018

                    • Added shutters: Solid, Flat Panel, Raised Panel, Louver, Board & Batten to arched windows.
                    • Shutter geometry parameter allows for: Left, Right or Double.
                    • Fixed bug in arched window module that was causing unpredictable push-pull behavior.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Now that I'm on a window/shutter kick I'm wondering if I should jump back into the window module and enable round and oval windows. I will probably forego the shutters on these types of windows for now and just concentrate on the basics like the window itself and the trim and casing.

                      The grilles for these type of windows (round and ovals) can get quite elaborate and could easily soak up an entire week of my time just trying to put together some of the more common variants.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • C Offline
                        Charlie__V
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                        @medeek said:

                        Now that I'm on a window/shutter kick I'm wondering if I should jump back into the window module and enable round and oval windows.

                        If you must.....but I would love to see an option for at least multiple DH or Casements (mulled units) implemented before round or oval since they are typically specialty/limited application.

                        My 2 pennies worth

                        Charlie

                        Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          Can you give me some examples for mulled units.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • C Offline
                            Charlie__V
                            last edited by

                            @medeek said:

                            Can you give me some examples for mulled units.

                            Just grabbed a page from Andersen casement catalog.
                            D1F11F10-6653-49DA-B8CF-B0C9C2697667.jpeg

                            And an in plan image....although this unit is fixed glass.....
                            C3FDF7A5-2B17-4F67-BF85-F2B1475B5444.jpeg

                            Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              For a triple casement window I am thinking a single frame with three sashes, does this seem reasonable?

                              Also I was thinking about oval and round windows earlier today and they are really one in the same, the only difference being the aspect ratio (height/width). A round window is an oval window with an AR = 1.0:

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su163_800.jpg

                              Hence the window height and width will drive the shape of the oval, really no different than a rectangular window.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                πŸ˜‰

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • C Offline
                                  Charlie__V
                                  last edited by

                                  @medeek said:

                                  For a triple casement window I am thinking a single frame with three sashes, does this seem reasonable?

                                  Yes, especially for presentation purposes.
                                  My current cad software allows for specifying an over all unit size and option to display a user specified number of segments.
                                  IE: 8’-0”x4’-0” .....Display = 3 segments......... (3) 2’-8”x4’-0”

                                  Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Oval / Round windows are certainly something new and a bit more challenging but now that I've got the algorithms worked out the rest is just a matter of generating the code.

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su164_800.jpg

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su165_800.jpg

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su166_800.jpg

                                      A video showing the Medeek Wall with Woody (French):

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Version 0.8.7 - 07.18.2018

                                        • Added oval and round windows to the window draw and edit modules.
                                        • Enabled trim, casing and window installation for oval and round windows.

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su167_800.jpg

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su168_800.jpg

                                        I haven't enabled shutters or grilles yet for this window type, it is not high on my todo list unless I receive additional requests for these features.

                                        The trim and casing options are also pretty much plain jane for now.

                                        Let's see if I can't knock out the Garage Door module this evening.

                                        I also thought it might be helpful to reiterate that if you are an educator (teacher, professor, school) or a student I am offering full licenses of all my plugins for educational use. All that I ask is you provide some form of student ID or other proof that you are associated with an educational institution. The educational licenses provided to educators also allow installation on up to 50 seats.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          I have been primarily focused on the imperial/US units during the development but I also realize that a lot of current users are utilizing the plugin in metric units. I am not at all familiar with construction and construction documents in metric units so I need a little help here.

                                          What I am talking about is the callouts for windows and doors. What is the appropriate way to show these callouts in metric units? What is common or accepted practice?

                                          I'm looking at an Australian floor plan right now and the first thing that jumps out at me is they call out height x width whereas in the US we call out width x height, now I am curious what other countries that are using metric are doing, specifically the UK, Norway and France.

                                          The Australian system seems to be the following: window sizes are rounded to the nearest decimeter and shown in meters: (ie. a 1090mm x 2230mm window is called out as a 1022. Doors on the other hand do not seem to be called out by height but only by their width in millimeters (ie. 820 for an 820mm wide door).

                                          If the callout systems differ dramatically between countries I suppose I can add a global setting which allows the users to switch between various callout systems (for metric units).

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            Version 0.8.7b - 07.19.2018

                                            • Added a 5-Lite Circular Grille for all window types.
                                            • Enabled all standard grille types for oval and round windows.

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su170_800.jpg

                                            View model here:

                                            Link Preview Image
                                            3D Warehouse

                                            3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

                                            favicon

                                            (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                                            This grille pattern was added per customer request, also note that it can be applied to any of the other rectangular window types (picture, single hung, slider).

                                            Lately I've been having so many smaller feature requests that it has been hard to focus on some of the big ticket items. I am doing my best not to be side tracked by these minor items and to just add them to the todo list so I can attend to them at a later date.

                                            The todo list is now over three pages long, so rather than shrink it has continued to grow. Honestly the amount of items I'm currently looking at is really the work of an entire team of programmers, not just a single person. So if my progress seems rather slow at times then it probably is.

                                            I've been trying to get some of my kids (teenagers) interested in helping out with some of the coding over their summer break but they seemed to be more inclined to spend their time playing computer/console games. I call them the Angry Birds or Pokemon Go generation. All of this technology is great but unless it is harnessed correctly it seems more detrimental than good.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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