Medeek Wall Plugin
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@medeek said:
Arched window with flat panel shutters:
These arched shutters are proving to be a bit more challenging. I will need to figure out a new algorithm for board and batten shutters and louver shutters.
No kidding. I can't even imagine!
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I think I've finally been bested by the complicated geometry and the limitations of SketchUp or perhaps my ability to model within SketchUp.
Notice the raised panel shutters for an arched windows shown below:
To create the raised panel effect I will draw the three outlines and then use the transform_entities method to move the edges into the plane. The problem is when I try this with a curved outline(s) as shown SketchUp does not know how to handle the curved planes/surfaces being created.
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I guess I haven't been defeated after all. Using the follow-me method I was able to get it to work:
I now have all the shutter types working for arched windows:
View model here:
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/325dad97-0a74-48b7-b1c6-d335be371261/Window-Test-4
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These are in your plans ?
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@pilou said:
These are in your plans ?
I have been contemplating them, but haven't put anything in the code as of yet.
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I"m not sure why you would want to put a single shutter to one side of a window but here it is just in case you need it:
I will have to wait until tomorrow to roll out all of the shutter updates its now 4:00AM and I'm done for now.
I think I've now beat this horse to death, shutters are available for rectangle and arched windows in all styles and geometry (Left, Right, Double).
After I add more window types I will probably need to revisit the shutter module but I don't think shutters are very common for more exotic window shapes (ie. ovals, triangles, trapezoids etc...)
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Left, Right and Double:
View model here:
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/f3001ec7-84ca-46da-b879-7ac7c3d80cd2/Window-Test-5
I've also addressed a bug with arched geometry where the push-pull direction was giving unpredictable results (flipping flopping between in and out). Turns out that you need to clock your segments all in the same direction to get predictable results, which makes sense. For some reason this did not occur to me as I was coding some of these sections of the main window module.
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Version 0.8.6b - 07.16.2018
- Added shutters: Solid, Flat Panel, Raised Panel, Louver, Board & Batten to arched windows.
- Shutter geometry parameter allows for: Left, Right or Double.
- Fixed bug in arched window module that was causing unpredictable push-pull behavior.
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Now that I'm on a window/shutter kick I'm wondering if I should jump back into the window module and enable round and oval windows. I will probably forego the shutters on these types of windows for now and just concentrate on the basics like the window itself and the trim and casing.
The grilles for these type of windows (round and ovals) can get quite elaborate and could easily soak up an entire week of my time just trying to put together some of the more common variants.
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@medeek said:
Now that I'm on a window/shutter kick I'm wondering if I should jump back into the window module and enable round and oval windows.
If you must.....but I would love to see an option for at least multiple DH or Casements (mulled units) implemented before round or oval since they are typically specialty/limited application.
My 2 pennies worth
Charlie
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Can you give me some examples for mulled units.
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@medeek said:
Can you give me some examples for mulled units.
Just grabbed a page from Andersen casement catalog.
And an in plan image....although this unit is fixed glass.....
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For a triple casement window I am thinking a single frame with three sashes, does this seem reasonable?
Also I was thinking about oval and round windows earlier today and they are really one in the same, the only difference being the aspect ratio (height/width). A round window is an oval window with an AR = 1.0:
Hence the window height and width will drive the shape of the oval, really no different than a rectangular window.
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@medeek said:
For a triple casement window I am thinking a single frame with three sashes, does this seem reasonable?
Yes, especially for presentation purposes.
My current cad software allows for specifying an over all unit size and option to display a user specified number of segments.
IE: 8’-0”x4’-0” .....Display = 3 segments......... (3) 2’-8”x4’-0” -
Oval / Round windows are certainly something new and a bit more challenging but now that I've got the algorithms worked out the rest is just a matter of generating the code.
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Version 0.8.7 - 07.18.2018
- Added oval and round windows to the window draw and edit modules.
- Enabled trim, casing and window installation for oval and round windows.
I haven't enabled shutters or grilles yet for this window type, it is not high on my todo list unless I receive additional requests for these features.
The trim and casing options are also pretty much plain jane for now.
Let's see if I can't knock out the Garage Door module this evening.
I also thought it might be helpful to reiterate that if you are an educator (teacher, professor, school) or a student I am offering full licenses of all my plugins for educational use. All that I ask is you provide some form of student ID or other proof that you are associated with an educational institution. The educational licenses provided to educators also allow installation on up to 50 seats.
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I have been primarily focused on the imperial/US units during the development but I also realize that a lot of current users are utilizing the plugin in metric units. I am not at all familiar with construction and construction documents in metric units so I need a little help here.
What I am talking about is the callouts for windows and doors. What is the appropriate way to show these callouts in metric units? What is common or accepted practice?
I'm looking at an Australian floor plan right now and the first thing that jumps out at me is they call out height x width whereas in the US we call out width x height, now I am curious what other countries that are using metric are doing, specifically the UK, Norway and France.
The Australian system seems to be the following: window sizes are rounded to the nearest decimeter and shown in meters: (ie. a 1090mm x 2230mm window is called out as a 1022. Doors on the other hand do not seem to be called out by height but only by their width in millimeters (ie. 820 for an 820mm wide door).
If the callout systems differ dramatically between countries I suppose I can add a global setting which allows the users to switch between various callout systems (for metric units).
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