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    • C Offline
      Charlie__V
      last edited by

      @medeek said:

      Version 0.8.1c - 06.26.2018

      • Fixed a bug where wall corner trim thickness equals trim width.

      This will now allow the user to specify a 1.5" x 1.5" interior corner trim.

      Thank you Nathaniel, this resolves the issue.
      And for the sake of clarity as to what the description means/is.....see pic below


      Ext.Siding_1.5x1.5_Inside Corner_06_27_2018.PNG

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by

        @charlie__v said:

        @medeek said:

        Version 0.8.1c - 06.26.2018

        • Fixed a bug where wall corner trim thickness equals trim width.

        This will now allow the user to specify a 1.5" x 1.5" interior corner trim.

        Thank you Nathaniel, this resolves the issue.
        And for the sake of clarity as to what the description means/is.....see pic below

        Thank-you for providing the additional clarification.

        Inevitably I'm going to miss things, didn't even consider a square corner trim on an interior corner, funny thing is I've seen this sort of thing a million times though.

        Please keep sending in the bugs and feature requests, I know there is more out there. Please also post up your models you create with the plugin I am curious as to how the plugin is actually being utilized.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • Bob JamesB Offline
          Bob James
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          I know this sounds somewhat heretical but how about an option to set the full version to match the lite version for the times when all that's initially needed is a concept drawing?
          Or is it obvious how to do it?

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by

            @bob james said:

            I know this sounds somewhat heretical but how about an option to set the full version to match the lite version for the times when all that's initially needed is a concept drawing?
            Or is it obvious how to do it?

            Within the global settings under the Wall Tab you can set the default framing mode to one of the three options. This will then always bring up the wall draw tool with the selected mode, while still giving you the option to bump the wall to any of the other modes if you suddenly need to see the framing.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • Bob JamesB Offline
              Bob James
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              Thank you

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Version 0.8.2 - 06.28.2018

                • Added the ability to draw and edit beams with the Beams/Column Toolset.
                • Glulam, PSL, LVL, LSL, Timber and Lumber beam types added to the beam module.
                • Start and end cut options (miter,firecut) added to the advanced options for beams.

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su120_800.jpg

                View model here:

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                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • Bob JamesB Offline
                  Bob James
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                  Could you add the revision number to the rbz file?
                  medeek_wall_ext 0-8-1c.rbz
                  medeek_wall_ext 0-8-2.rbz

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    @bob james said:

                    Could you add the revision number to the rbz file?
                    medeek_wall_ext 0-8-1c.rbz
                    medeek_wall_ext 0-8-2.rbz

                    Yes, that is probably not a bad idea.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Trying to find a decent wood grain to use for timber beams, any suggestions or images anyone is willing to share? I've got a decent end grain image, just looking for the side grain.

                      P.S. I am also looking for a good pressure treated texture/material.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        The currently available beam types are:

                        • Timber
                        • LSL
                        • Lumber
                        • Glulam
                        • LVL
                        • PSL

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su121_800.jpg

                        The number of plies can be 1, 2, 3, and 4

                        Glulam species are currently Western Species and Southern Pine.

                        SCL lumber (LVL, LSL, PSL) are the US industry standard sizes (Weyerhauser, Boise Cascade, Louisiana- Pacific).

                        The miter cut puts the diagonal facing the bottom, the fire cut puts the diagonal facing the top.

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                        The materials shown are the default (built-in) materials for the plugin if the materials option is turned on. I'm not totally in love with the various textures I have for LSL, PSL, LVL and Timber but it is better than nothing I suppose.

                        For the timber and LVL option you can see that the end and edges have there own material assigned. Also if you apply a custom cut (after the fact) the way I have the materials assigned should allow you to maintain the proper end grain appearance.

                        The only thing really missing is steel beams which should not be too big of a leap now that I have the whole beam system/module in place.

                        Tomorrow I will jump back on the garage door module and see if we can make some headway with that.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          One last thing to note with the beam module is that all of the standard sizes are US/Imperial.

                          I can add in standard sizes for metric however I will need that information. I currently have glulam beam data for the UK, South Africa and Australia but I will also need PSL, LVL, lumber, timbers and LSL.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            Version 0.8.2b - 06.29.2018

                            • Steel: Wide Flange (W) beam types added to the beam module.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su122_800.jpg

                            I've only added five wide flange sizes thus far. I just need to know what sizes are most typically used and I can add them in.

                            Note that miter and fire cuts work with the steel beams as well.

                            I was also thinking an advanced option for steel beams might be a nailer plate on top and/or bottom of the beam, again feedback in this regard will determine if I pursue this further.

                            http://seblog.strongtie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Hanger-Install.jpg

                            Another thing to note with beams is that you can move them around just like any other object in SketchUp using the SU move tool, unlike the walls. Technically you can move the walls with he SU move tool as well its just they won't stay connected if you do.

                            Another advanced option for beams would be a hanger library which can be added to or modified by the user. I am already doing this sort of thing for window and door components so it isn't a big stretch for beam hangers.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Version 0.8.2c - 06.29.2018

                              • Added a hanger library (customizable) and the ability to place hangers at the start and/or end of a beam.

                              Hangers shown are: HU612, LUC26Z and LUS26

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su123_800.jpg

                              The hanger library is located in the "hangers" sub-folder of the library folder of the plugin.

                              I have a few Simpson Hangers included but any of these can be modified and additional SKP files can be put into this folder. The plugin will automatically allow the selection of any components found within this sub-folder when selecting hangers for beams within the draw and edit menus.

                              I have contacted Simpson Strong-Tie in an effort to get a few more of their more common hangers that I can then simplify and include in the plugin. I am particularly interested in the HUCQ series.

                              In order to minimize polygon count I typically eliminate most of the holes in the hangers and also any curved surfaces, the goal is to keep the file size below 50 kb if possible.

                              I should also add that one could also include column caps in this sub-folder, like the CCQ/ECCQ/ECCLQ/CCTQ series.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                @bob james said:

                                As of 0.8.2c the only thing in

                                C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2018\SketchUp\Plugins*medeek_wall_ext\library*
                                is one window and one door. πŸ˜• : πŸ˜• :

                                You'll need to download 0.8.2d, I'll roll it out tomorrow.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • Bob JamesB Offline
                                  Bob James
                                  last edited by

                                  As of 0.8.2b the only thing in

                                  C:\Users\Bob\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2018\SketchUp\Plugins*medeek_wall_ext\library*
                                  is one window and one door. πŸ˜• : πŸ˜• :

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                                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                                    Bob James
                                    last edited by

                                    The Hangers are in the 0.8.2c Library.
                                    I was looking in 0.8.2b
                                    My mistake: sorry

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                                    • C Offline
                                      Charlie__V
                                      last edited by

                                      Re: Wainscoting feature/suggestion
                                      Pretty common to have a "band board" in SE USA (sometimes called "water table").
                                      Perhaps your wainscoting code could be adapted to create the band board and possibly a freize board as well.(please see pic & SU model)
                                      Having it automatically cut out for door openings/etc. would be quite handy.

                                      ......merely a suggestion.

                                      BandBoard_WaterTable_Freize

                                      BandBd_WaterTable_06_30_2018.skp

                                      C

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Version 0.8.2d - 06.30.2018

                                        • Created a number of low polygon count Simpson Strong-Tie hanger and column caps.

                                        The full list of included hangers and column caps can be found here:

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                                        Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Wall Plugin Vendors

                                        Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Wall Plugin Vendors

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                                        Any hardware included with the plugin are custom drawn by me to reduce polygon count and standardize layers and materials.

                                        If you would like to see specific hardware added please email me the manufacturer, part numbers and reference material. For Simpson hardware I typically refer to their literature and their various DWGs files found on their website.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • pbacotP Offline
                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by

                                          This is what dedication looks like! Don't forget board and battens!


                                          Screen Shot 2018-05-24 at 9.46.44 AM.png

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            @charlie__v said:

                                            Re: Wainscoting feature/suggestion
                                            Pretty common to have a "band board" in SE USA (sometimes called "water table").
                                            Perhaps your wainscoting code could be adapted to create the band board and possibly a freize board as well.(please see pic & SU model)
                                            Having it automatically cut out for door openings/etc. would be quite handy.

                                            ......merely a suggestion.

                                            [attachment=1:2w17f8d7]<!-- ia1 -->BandBoard_WaterTable_Freize_06_30_2018.PNG<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:2w17f8d7]

                                            [attachment=0:2w17f8d7]<!-- ia0 -->BandBd_WaterTable_06_30_2018.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2w17f8d7]

                                            C

                                            I've looked at this in some detail and have the following observations and thoughts:

                                            1.) The wainscoting is really a separate feature from the exterior trim even though they do interact.

                                            2.) Currently the only option (feature) available with exterior trim is the corner trim and of course the window and door trim, the following three additional items need consideration and will be added to the exterior trim module:

                                            a) Frieze Board: at the top of the cladding (width and thickness)

                                            b) Band Board: somewhere midspan on the wall (width, thickness and height on wall)

                                            c) Skirt Board/Water Table: at bottom of the cladding (width and thickness)

                                            3.) Three additional parameters are needed to determine whether the three boards cut through the corner trim or terminate at the corner trim, see examples below:

                                            http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/sites/default/files/Water table 2.jpg

                                            http://www.herboth-remodeling.com/Siding/IMG_0354.JPG

                                            The same holds true for what to do where the boards meet door or window openings and their trim. In the picture above the skirt board cuts the man door trim however the band board does not and terminates at the trim. Also one must consider the case where the frieze or band board bisects the window or door only partially.

                                            In the image below the band board terminates at the door trim:

                                            http://www.contractortalk.com/attachments/f33/27104d1262824361-vinyl-siding-headache-016-1.jpg

                                            In the image below the band board bisects the window partially and replace the windows bottom trim:

                                            http://www.herboth-remodeling.com/Siding/IMG_0357.JPG

                                            It's complicated, but we must start somewhere.

                                            Additionally with wainscoting it would be nice to be able to terminate or start the wainscoting at any arbitrary distance along the length of the wall, this would allow for a 48" return for brick or cultured stone rather than only being able to terminate at the corner. I will be looking at this later today and see if it is something I can implement relatively quickly.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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