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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      I really like the GUI idea I have posted above and the idea of presets (or saved configurations). If I can implement both of these I think the plugin will be a pleasure to use and that is really the key with software in my opinion, it needs to fun to use.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        Just to give you an idea of the number of parameters that are involved in a window opening with all of the advanced options enabled please take a look at the following html page that will form the template for the Window Edit Menu:

        404 - File or directory not found.

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        The premise of this edit function is that each window can have everyone of these parameters individually set by the user independent of any other window or door.

        I've been also contemplating if I should have a window grouping feature which allows one to group windows so that certain parameters can be updated once and propagate to other windows within that group.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
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          Comparision of the 2D and 3D (full framing) modes:

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su56_800.jpg

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su57_800.jpg

          View model here:

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          The 2D model could probably use some further refinements to bring it more in line with standard drafting practice.

          If the designer installs the actual doors then the plugin will show the appropriate swing and opening direction of the door in the 2D mode.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
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            Looks Great!

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              Preview of the Opening Edit and Delete Functions:

              View model here:

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              I am now working on the opening move function or tool.

              The creation of the html menus for the window and door edit functions took a couple days due to the shear volume of the number of parameters involved. I have been very busy working on the plugin the last four days especially with debugging and testing.

              As I actually test the features out sometimes new ideas come to me or even a better way of doing something so I also get dragged down into some rabbit holes as I am debugging and correcting the code.

              I am wondering if it would be helpful with the wall, window and door creation tools to show a grid (every foot or six inches on center) that can function as an aid that the use can snap to?

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                This is an update on the previous "todo" list and the current status of various high priority items:

                1.) Wall and Window edit, move and delete functions/Tools.

                Edit and delete is complete, currently working on the move function.

                2.) Global Setting tabs for Window and Door settings.

                Parameters have multiplied five fold, will need to spend more time adding in all of these new parameters.

                3.) Rudimentary Door and Window plugin that integrates with this plugin tightly.

                This is complete, three door types, three window types, more variants to be added after initial release.

                4.) Wall Move and Split Tool.

                Wall move tool is planned prior to release, split tool will probably be after.

                5.) Add air gap parameter for the cladding (ie. brick fascia).

                Done.

                6.) Auto corner configuration

                Approximately, 50% complete, more debugging and testing required.

                7.) Polyline Wall Tool and Face Wall Tool (right now all you can do is create a single segment at a time).

                Polyline tool is now planned prior to release, face tool is on backburner until requests drive it to top of list.

                8.) Final clean and addition of any additional parameters to the Global Settings.

                This is part of item #2.

                9.) Further refinements to the Add Window and Add Door Tools.

                Complete for now, some additional error checking could be added to check for impossible geometry situations.

                10.) Gable/Shed Wall Tool.

                This is planned after initial release, for now.

                11.) Add glulam beams to Window and Door header options.

                This will be added when the garage door module is added, which will probably be post release.

                12.) Update Wall Plugin web page.

                Will attack this just prior to release of plugin.

                13.) Additional logic for interior walls

                This needs attention before release of plugin.

                14.) Mitered corners for cladding.

                Code is in place however further testing and debugging required.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Okay that was easy:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su58_800.jpg

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su59_800.jpg

                  Six panel doors are now part of the plugin.

                  View model here:

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                  3D Warehouse

                  3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Still mucking around with the Wall and Door Move Function:

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su60_800.jpg

                    It's actually working quite well however I am trying to figure out how to add a grid next to the wall that the cursor can inference from and snap to regular intervals.

                    Any suggestions would be helpful.

                    I will say the move tool is quite handy and a bit faster than using the edit function.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      The opening move tool is giving me some headaches:

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • M Offline
                        mpacey
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                        What if you "auto-hide" the trim when the move command is selected, then you would have the wall edges to inference to. Is that even possible? I'm not a coder.

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          @mpacey said:

                          What if you "auto-hide" the trim when the move command is selected, then you would have the wall edges to inference to. Is that even possible? I'm not a coder.

                          The point is that I want to not have to inference against anything to have the move arrow smoothly extend either side of the opening.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            The opening move tool is now complete and I am now working on the wall move tool along with the wall polyline creation tool and the auto-config for wall corners. This is the last major item(s) on the todo list prior to release. All other items are fairly minor in comparison and constitute mere housekeeping rather than actual significant development.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su61_800.jpg

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su62_800.jpg

                            View model here:

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                            3D Warehouse

                            3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Every stud, plate and header is there, if you want it.

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su63_800.jpg

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                I've added a callout option so that when the designer is in the 2D mode the window and door sizes and types are called out:

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su65_800.jpg

                                This particular option can only be set in the global settings.

                                One thing to note is that the door handedness and the window type are only in the callout if the user has specified a particular door or window type to install. If the advanced options are not enabled then only the opening size will be displayed (ie. 3068 vs. 3068LH or 3040 vs. 3040SH).

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  That's nice! I've had a CAD program for decades that has never added this simple feature. Often we go to schedules with a symbol or more detailed info on the plan but during design this would be great so anyone (including yourself) can look at the drawing or model and know what size is drawn. As for handedness, I don't like to put it on the plans. I am convinced that people just don't agree what it means. I can quickly find a diagram online that shows it opposite from what you show. Great additions though! Thanks!

                                  I know the lines dividing the different wall lines relate to framing or modeling in your case but traditionally there are no lines drawn at the wall intersections in plan.

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
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                                    @pbacot said:

                                    That's nice! I've had a CAD program for decades that has never added this simple feature. Often we go to schedules with a symbol or more detailed info on the plan but during design this would be great so anyone (including yourself) can look at the drawing or model and know what size is drawn. As for handedness, I don't like to put it on the plans. I am convinced that people just don't agree what it means. I can quickly find a diagram online that shows it opposite from what you show. Great additions though! Thanks!

                                    I know the lines dividing the different wall lines relate to framing or modeling in your case but traditionally there are no lines drawn at the wall intersections in plan.

                                    The 2D mode is really designed as lightweight schematic of the model layout rather than a final floor plan for construction documents.

                                    Walls are divided up by segments and hence they are represented as separate structures even in 2D. At some point I will probably provide a feature which will allow the user to generate a full on floor plan that will be setup for bringing all of the data into layout or some other CAD engine for final construction document creation.

                                    When it comes to generating 2D documents I still go to AutoCAD even though Layout does exist and continues to get stronger. For that reason I think it may be useful to have an automated DXF export function builtin at some point, that cleans up the drawing nicely and gives the user exactly what they need to prepare the floor plan.

                                    I haven't shown any interior walls yet in any of these examples, but the idea there is they will be shaded a different color than the exterior walls so that the user can quickly differentiate between the two in the 2D mode.

                                    I agree the handedness is a bit of a pain in the butt, and you are correct that there seems to be varying definitions of which is the correct way of designating this. I may eliminate the handedness altogether, besides the graphic clearly shows the swing of the door.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • facerF Offline
                                      facer
                                      last edited by

                                      Medeek,
                                      In response to your statement:
                                      I may eliminate the handedness altogether, besides the graphic clearly shows the swing of the door.

                                      I can confirm that naming the handing or "handedness" over several years of door scheduling for architectural firms supports your view.

                                      However 😄 when dealing with computer designed buildings
                                      naming the handing allows for computer checking of the door hardware, building code requirements,
                                      and building standards. This is applicable to medium to large scale buildings presently, but as
                                      computers evolve on their merry exponential curve of application it could be applied to smaller projects in the near future. (3-6 years is my guess)

                                      I suggest completing your first version of the software allowing for future updates when and if there is a demand for a handing function for the particular market that will be using SketchUp for documentation in the near future.

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        A preview of the Polyline Wall Creation Tool and Auto-Corner Configuration:

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          Another test of the wall plugin combined with the foundation and truss plugin.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su66_800.jpg

                                          The wall plugin is now in better shape than the truss plugin since no manual edits are required and all the windows and doors are fully parametric.

                                          However note that the interior walls and garage doors are still missing, more work yet to be done.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su67_800.jpg

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su68_800.jpg

                                          View model here:

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                                          After spending the last month on this new plugin I can see where the other two plugins have room for some serious improvement, I've really got my work cut out for me.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
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                                            A true house turnkey solution! 😎

                                            Frenchy Pilou
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                                            My Little site :)

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