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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 3 May 2018, 16:21

    For the initial release we will begin with these three door types: solid, half glass, full glass

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su53_800.jpg

    After the plugin is up and running we can add in any number of man door types to include but not limited to:

    • Six Panel, two panel, three panel, four panel etc...
    • Double doors (of each of the single door types)
    • Sliding
    • Arched
    • Pocket and double pocket
    • Bi-fold and double bi-fold
    • Doors with sidelites
    • Dutch

    With the addition of doors the framing looks like this:

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su54_800.jpg

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      JQL
      last edited by 3 May 2018, 18:44

      I can't say that I love the standard style, but this is, however, a really impressive work medeek! I imagine you'll have a tremendous success with this one.

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      • M Offline
        medeek
        last edited by 3 May 2018, 19:04

        @jql said:

        I can't say that I love the standard style, but this is, however, a really impressive work medeek! I imagine you'll have a tremendous success with this one.

        Tell me what you don't like about the standard styles? What can I do to make it better?

        I haven't shown the trim or casing around the doors just yet, that is currently in the works this morning.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          JQL
          last edited by 3 May 2018, 22:22

          Sorry, it's not something you have made, it's just a standard Architectural style that seems to be widely used in some countries. It's so widely used and standard in fact, that it makes it possible for you to create a plugin like this. The plugin itself seems robust and really seems to be a huge achievement.

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          • M Offline
            medeek
            last edited by 3 May 2018, 23:45

            @jql said:

            Sorry, it's not something you have made, it's just a standard Architectural style that seems to be widely used in some countries. It's so widely used and standard in fact, that it makes it possible for you to create a plugin like this. The plugin itself seems robust and really seems to be a huge achievement.

            It's still a work in progress and it is getting more and more robust as I continue to put it through its paces. I still have a ways to go with some of the more advanced logic but the basic geometry creation pieces are now in place.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • M Offline
              medeek
              last edited by 4 May 2018, 05:31

              Trim and casing for man doors is now complete. The garage door module has been planned out but will have to come after the initial release of the plugin.

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su55_800.jpg

              Currently there is only one style of trim and one style of casing for doors.

              With the completion of the doors all of the primary geometry programming is done. What is remaining is the edit menus for the door and windows and the move and split functions for the walls.

              The number of parameters is rather large so it will probably also be another two days worth of programming just to fully update the global settings so that it encompasses all of this information.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • M Offline
                medeek
                last edited by 4 May 2018, 06:47

                It's funny how you get your best programming ideas while not actually programming, always seems to work that way.

                I was thinking about the flow of the plugin and the number of menus the user has to navigate through if they are to enable all of the options for a door or window, the menus are:

                1.) Basic Geometry
                2.) Advanced Options (choose whether you want trim, casing and window or door installed)
                3.) Window / Door Installation and Parameters
                4.) Trim
                5.) Casing

                As you can see this is alot of menus to have to click through just to create a window or a door, in my mind it is too many and too clunky of an interface.

                Similar to the truss plugin I think I need to setup an option so the user can instead use a graphical user interface (HTML GUI) as an alternative.

                My idea here is to have a HTML menu pop up that looks very similar to the edit menu but allows the user to keep it open and make changes to the parameters as required and then proceed to create another window or door but with those updated parameters. This will allow the user to get all of their parameters to what they would like and then make minor changes by changing one or two (or more) parameters without having to walk back through the basic menu system given above. This should greatly speed up window and door creation.

                I may not roll this out with the first release depending on how quickly I can get the other items on the "todo" list done but it is certainly on my mind and is very close to the top of the list.

                This same system or workflow should probably be implemented for wall creation as well. In fact, one could theoretically leave all three GUI menus open and work of them to create walls, windows and doors in no particular order and without having to walk through any menu chains at all.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • F Offline
                  facer
                  last edited by 4 May 2018, 18:24

                  Workflow, as discussed above, will make the plugin more attractive to
                  potential users.

                  You currently are grouping common data inputs in their logical sequence.
                  If you can graphically separate the "common data strings" it will speed
                  up locating and entering required data for particular areas.

                  Avoiding the "long list" of data entries will assist users.
                  Using a plugin that is only frequently used is difficult as the user
                  is "not an engineer" and some of the abbreviations require constant review of the
                  "help files, video or manual".

                  If data inputs can be saved it would allow the user to keep a library of "data inputs".
                  These could even be made available on the Medeek web page or via the 3D Warehouse.

                  You are making good progress and I am sure the Kickstarter participants are pleased
                  with what they are seeing.

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                  • M Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by 4 May 2018, 23:30

                    I really like the GUI idea I have posted above and the idea of presets (or saved configurations). If I can implement both of these I think the plugin will be a pleasure to use and that is really the key with software in my opinion, it needs to fun to use.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • M Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by 5 May 2018, 01:14

                      Just to give you an idea of the number of parameters that are involved in a window opening with all of the advanced options enabled please take a look at the following html page that will form the template for the Window Edit Menu:

                      404 - File or directory not found.

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                      (design.medeek.com)

                      The premise of this edit function is that each window can have everyone of these parameters individually set by the user independent of any other window or door.

                      I've been also contemplating if I should have a window grouping feature which allows one to group windows so that certain parameters can be updated once and propagate to other windows within that group.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 5 May 2018, 01:58

                        Comparision of the 2D and 3D (full framing) modes:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su56_800.jpg

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su57_800.jpg

                        View model here:

                        Link Preview Image
                        3D Warehouse

                        3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                        The 2D model could probably use some further refinements to bring it more in line with standard drafting practice.

                        If the designer installs the actual doors then the plugin will show the appropriate swing and opening direction of the door in the 2D mode.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          pbacot
                          last edited by 5 May 2018, 06:11

                          Looks Great!

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • M Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by 8 May 2018, 16:52

                            Preview of the Opening Edit and Delete Functions:

                            View model here:

                            Link Preview Image
                            3D Warehouse

                            3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                            I am now working on the opening move function or tool.

                            The creation of the html menus for the window and door edit functions took a couple days due to the shear volume of the number of parameters involved. I have been very busy working on the plugin the last four days especially with debugging and testing.

                            As I actually test the features out sometimes new ideas come to me or even a better way of doing something so I also get dragged down into some rabbit holes as I am debugging and correcting the code.

                            I am wondering if it would be helpful with the wall, window and door creation tools to show a grid (every foot or six inches on center) that can function as an aid that the use can snap to?

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • M Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by 8 May 2018, 21:07

                              This is an update on the previous "todo" list and the current status of various high priority items:

                              1.) Wall and Window edit, move and delete functions/Tools.

                              Edit and delete is complete, currently working on the move function.

                              2.) Global Setting tabs for Window and Door settings.

                              Parameters have multiplied five fold, will need to spend more time adding in all of these new parameters.

                              3.) Rudimentary Door and Window plugin that integrates with this plugin tightly.

                              This is complete, three door types, three window types, more variants to be added after initial release.

                              4.) Wall Move and Split Tool.

                              Wall move tool is planned prior to release, split tool will probably be after.

                              5.) Add air gap parameter for the cladding (ie. brick fascia).

                              Done.

                              6.) Auto corner configuration

                              Approximately, 50% complete, more debugging and testing required.

                              7.) Polyline Wall Tool and Face Wall Tool (right now all you can do is create a single segment at a time).

                              Polyline tool is now planned prior to release, face tool is on backburner until requests drive it to top of list.

                              8.) Final clean and addition of any additional parameters to the Global Settings.

                              This is part of item #2.

                              9.) Further refinements to the Add Window and Add Door Tools.

                              Complete for now, some additional error checking could be added to check for impossible geometry situations.

                              10.) Gable/Shed Wall Tool.

                              This is planned after initial release, for now.

                              11.) Add glulam beams to Window and Door header options.

                              This will be added when the garage door module is added, which will probably be post release.

                              12.) Update Wall Plugin web page.

                              Will attack this just prior to release of plugin.

                              13.) Additional logic for interior walls

                              This needs attention before release of plugin.

                              14.) Mitered corners for cladding.

                              Code is in place however further testing and debugging required.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • M Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by 9 May 2018, 02:23

                                Okay that was easy:

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su58_800.jpg

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su59_800.jpg

                                Six panel doors are now part of the plugin.

                                View model here:

                                Link Preview Image
                                3D Warehouse

                                3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 9 May 2018, 21:42

                                  Still mucking around with the Wall and Door Move Function:

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su60_800.jpg

                                  It's actually working quite well however I am trying to figure out how to add a grid next to the wall that the cursor can inference from and snap to regular intervals.

                                  Any suggestions would be helpful.

                                  I will say the move tool is quite handy and a bit faster than using the edit function.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • M Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 10 May 2018, 01:21

                                    The opening move tool is giving me some headaches:

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      mpacey
                                      last edited by 10 May 2018, 02:22

                                      What if you "auto-hide" the trim when the move command is selected, then you would have the wall edges to inference to. Is that even possible? I'm not a coder.

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 10 May 2018, 13:36

                                        @mpacey said:

                                        What if you "auto-hide" the trim when the move command is selected, then you would have the wall edges to inference to. Is that even possible? I'm not a coder.

                                        The point is that I want to not have to inference against anything to have the move arrow smoothly extend either side of the opening.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 11 May 2018, 02:02

                                          The opening move tool is now complete and I am now working on the wall move tool along with the wall polyline creation tool and the auto-config for wall corners. This is the last major item(s) on the todo list prior to release. All other items are fairly minor in comparison and constitute mere housekeeping rather than actual significant development.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su61_800.jpg

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su62_800.jpg

                                          View model here:

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          3D Warehouse

                                          3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                          (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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