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    • mootM Offline
      moot
      last edited by

      I'm trying to figure out how to flatten a pipe/cylinder...
      Strut example.jpg
      I imported a graphic on what I would like to model, here's my .skp:

      Strut.skp

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Use TGI3D for insert some many sections and you will can move some points/segments for obtain your form! πŸ˜„
        There is a free version sufficient for your case! πŸ˜„

        no_section.jpg

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        • BoxB Offline
          Box
          last edited by

          I'm not quite following what you want from your image. On phone so can't look at model.
          But, a flattened cylinder is a rectangle made from the circumference of the circle and the length of the cylinder.

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          • gillesG Offline
            gilles
            last edited by

            Not exactly what you want but the method.

            Curviloft:
            http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=248195#p248195


            flatten.gif

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            • N Offline
              nlipovac
              last edited by

              Maybe SubD plugin with Vertex tool for some controls.
              Here is my try.


              SubD_Pipe.skp

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              • sdmitchS Offline
                sdmitch
                last edited by

                @moot said:

                I'm trying to figure out how to flatten a pipe/cylinder...


                Flatten Tube.gif

                Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

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                  • mootM Offline
                    moot
                    last edited by

                    Thank you sdmitch. I've got part of what I want now...
                    Now I'm trying to bend the flat section...
                    Strut-Flat and 30 deg.jpg

                    The Flat is a solid... problem is, when I get the 30 degree bend I can't make it solid... something I'm missing/doing wrong? I figure it has something to do with the curved surface intersecting the tube angle... but I can't seem to get rid of the extra edges/faces that are causing the model to keep from becoming a 'solid'

                    Strut.skp

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      You must move points/segments of the inner together !
                      And make many more sections on each parts!
                      Your cylinder can't bend without more sections
                      Enable Menu Dislay / Hidden Geometry for see the sections!

                      For general or partial Bend use Fredo Scale!
                      Minutes 5.20 (many sections)

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                      • mootM Offline
                        moot
                        last edited by

                        @pilou said:

                        You must move points/segments of the inner together !
                        And make many more sections on each parts!
                        Your cylinder can't bend without more sections

                        Thanks... works great using FredoScale!

                        Now, just one more thing... I'm trying to get a hole through the flat... struggling, but I'm going to try to figure it out... πŸ˜• Can make the hole, but lose the 'solid'... going to spend some time on it before I ask for help πŸ˜‰

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                        • mootM Offline
                          moot
                          last edited by

                          @moot said:

                          ... I'm trying to get a hole through the flat... struggling... πŸ˜• Can make the hole, but lose the 'solid'...

                          Well, I'm stumped... tried VisuHole. It made the hole all the way through the model but SolidSolver says there is 'nested group', tries to fix it - but can't...

                          Here's a pic with the guides for (3/16 radius) hole I want...
                          Make Hole in Flat.jpg

                          Make Hole in Flat.skp

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                          • gillesG Offline
                            gilles
                            last edited by

                            It may be tiny surface issue so scale up the model to X100 or X1000 before perform such operations, and post your model in SU 2015 version please.

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                            • mootM Offline
                              moot
                              last edited by

                              @gilles said:

                              It may be tiny surface issue so scale up the model to X100 or X1000 before perform such operations, and post your model in SU 2015 version please.

                              I'll give it a whirl... here is 2015 version:
                              Make Hole in Flat (2015).skp

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                              • gillesG Offline
                                gilles
                                last edited by

                                Fine, scaling up to X100 and processing a hole works fine and gives a solid.

                                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                • mootM Offline
                                  moot
                                  last edited by

                                  @gilles said:

                                  Fine, scaling up to X100 and processing a hole works fine and gives a solid.

                                  I tried with VisuHole and it still did not work... could you give more detail? i.e., 'processing a hole'...

                                  SolidSolver still gave 'nested groups' and would not fix...

                                  I created circle, selected all, Scaled factor 100, opened VisuHole, selected stencil, applied at guide...

                                  Edit: I did it over again and this time it worked... SolidSolver still found 'nested group' but fixed it 😍

                                  Thanks so much for your input...

                                  You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em think!

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    Would this be close to what you're trying to achieve?
                                    flattened.png

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                                    • mootM Offline
                                      moot
                                      last edited by

                                      @dave r said:

                                      Would this be close to what you're trying to achieve?...

                                      eh.. pretty darn close... I just need to adjust the angle of the flat to the 'hub' angles for the dome struts, i.e., V1, V2, V3, etc...

                                      That pic is much cleaner then what I have so far:
                                      V1 Strut - ~8' dia Dome.jpg

                                      Trying to document the dome I've built... planned use to cover round bale hay and provide pasture shelters for goats and donkey's... yup got two (mother and daughter) to keep coyotes away... coyotes killed one of my goats and the neighbors cow 😞

                                      Anyway, here is the dome I built so far... need to make the skin.
                                      V1-~8ft dia.jpg

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        flattened2.png

                                        I see. Nice thing you're doing for your goats.

                                        Maybe you need a coyote trap.

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                                        • mootM Offline
                                          moot
                                          last edited by

                                          @dave r said:

                                          ... Maybe you need a coyote trap.

                                          Trying to trap is problematic... don't want to draw them onto your land... a donkey will keep them away or kill them... then they stay away.

                                          Your model of the strut is awesome... hope to be able to do modeling like you some day.
                                          Especially like the way you were able to get the 'flat' really flat.

                                          You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em think!

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            Ah, yes. My brother has a neighbor who keeps a couple of donkeys to fend off the coyotes.

                                            Thanks on the drawing. I used Curviloft but I didn't really try to draw it the shape as a pipe. That is there's no wall thickness. I doubt there'd be much value in the internal faces and the geometry is much easier to handle without them.

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