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    sdmitch
    last edited by 9 Dec 2016, 15:28

    @moot said:

    I'm trying to figure out how to flatten a pipe/cylinder...


    Flatten Tube.gif

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      pilou
      last edited by 9 Dec 2016, 18:12

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        moot
        last edited by 9 Dec 2016, 21:12

        Thank you sdmitch. I've got part of what I want now...
        Now I'm trying to bend the flat section...
        Strut-Flat and 30 deg.jpg

        The Flat is a solid... problem is, when I get the 30 degree bend I can't make it solid... something I'm missing/doing wrong? I figure it has something to do with the curved surface intersecting the tube angle... but I can't seem to get rid of the extra edges/faces that are causing the model to keep from becoming a 'solid'

        Strut.skp

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          pilou
          last edited by 9 Dec 2016, 21:56

          You must move points/segments of the inner together !
          And make many more sections on each parts!
          Your cylinder can't bend without more sections
          Enable Menu Dislay / Hidden Geometry for see the sections!

          For general or partial Bend use Fredo Scale !
          Minutes 5.20 (many sections)

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            moot
            last edited by 10 Dec 2016, 13:24

            @pilou said:

            You must move points/segments of the inner together !
            And make many more sections on each parts!
            Your cylinder can't bend without more sections

            Thanks... works great using FredoScale!

            Now, just one more thing... I'm trying to get a hole through the flat... struggling, but I'm going to try to figure it out... πŸ˜• Can make the hole, but lose the 'solid'... going to spend some time on it before I ask for help πŸ˜‰

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              moot
              last edited by 10 Dec 2016, 15:33

              @moot said:

              ... I'm trying to get a hole through the flat... struggling... πŸ˜• Can make the hole, but lose the 'solid'...

              Well, I'm stumped... tried VisuHole. It made the hole all the way through the model but SolidSolver says there is 'nested group', tries to fix it - but can't...

              Here's a pic with the guides for (3/16 radius) hole I want...
              Make Hole in Flat.jpg

              Make Hole in Flat.skp

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                gilles
                last edited by 10 Dec 2016, 15:41

                It may be tiny surface issue so scale up the model to X100 or X1000 before perform such operations, and post your model in SU 2015 version please.

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                  moot
                  last edited by 10 Dec 2016, 16:06

                  @gilles said:

                  It may be tiny surface issue so scale up the model to X100 or X1000 before perform such operations, and post your model in SU 2015 version please.

                  I'll give it a whirl... here is 2015 version:
                  Make Hole in Flat (2015).skp

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                    gilles
                    last edited by 10 Dec 2016, 16:33

                    Fine, scaling up to X100 and processing a hole works fine and gives a solid.

                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                      moot
                      last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 00:26

                      @gilles said:

                      Fine, scaling up to X100 and processing a hole works fine and gives a solid.

                      I tried with VisuHole and it still did not work... could you give more detail? i.e., 'processing a hole'...

                      SolidSolver still gave 'nested groups' and would not fix...

                      I created circle, selected all, Scaled factor 100, opened VisuHole, selected stencil, applied at guide...

                      Edit: I did it over again and this time it worked... SolidSolver still found 'nested group' but fixed it 😍

                      Thanks so much for your input...

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                        Dave R
                        last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 01:13

                        Would this be close to what you're trying to achieve?
                        flattened.png

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                          moot
                          last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 02:07

                          @dave r said:

                          Would this be close to what you're trying to achieve?...

                          eh.. pretty darn close... I just need to adjust the angle of the flat to the 'hub' angles for the dome struts, i.e., V1, V2, V3, etc...

                          That pic is much cleaner then what I have so far:
                          V1 Strut - ~8' dia Dome.jpg

                          Trying to document the dome I've built... planned use to cover round bale hay and provide pasture shelters for goats and donkey's... yup got two (mother and daughter) to keep coyotes away... coyotes killed one of my goats and the neighbors cow 😞

                          Anyway, here is the dome I built so far... need to make the skin.
                          V1-~8ft dia.jpg

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                            Dave R
                            last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 02:54

                            flattened2.png

                            I see. Nice thing you're doing for your goats.

                            Maybe you need a coyote trap.

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                              moot
                              last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 04:03

                              @dave r said:

                              ... Maybe you need a coyote trap.

                              Trying to trap is problematic... don't want to draw them onto your land... a donkey will keep them away or kill them... then they stay away.

                              Your model of the strut is awesome... hope to be able to do modeling like you some day.
                              Especially like the way you were able to get the 'flat' really flat.

                              You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em think!

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                                Dave R
                                last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 04:14

                                Ah, yes. My brother has a neighbor who keeps a couple of donkeys to fend off the coyotes.

                                Thanks on the drawing. I used Curviloft but I didn't really try to draw it the shape as a pipe. That is there's no wall thickness. I doubt there'd be much value in the internal faces and the geometry is much easier to handle without them.

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 10:36

                                  Maybe this can interest you!
                                  TaffGosh the SketchUp Master of domes! 😎

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    moot
                                    last edited by 11 Dec 2016, 12:29

                                    @dave r said:

                                    ...I used Curviloft ...

                                    Thanks, I'll look at it and see if I can clean up my model.

                                    @pilou said:

                                    Maybe this can interest you!
                                    TaffGosh the SketchUp Master of domes! 😎

                                    Verrrrry interesting... Thank you for the lead... lots of great information.

                                    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em think!

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